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the 182 has 4x4 wheels them twin pipes look pathetic, just cut a good deal on the 172

i just gotta price book from renault, 172 cup is still listed

dean do you live in addington?? im sure iv seen you before and asked if you was selling the car! lol! iv never seen an evo in shirley, lots of scoobys, never evos!

Ben, is there anything you dont know about valvers/willys!? you should write a book! :D

someone posted this on a few days ago mate, most people advised getting an RT as you wont be expiernced enough to drive a valver!

i dont think HIC will insure you as your not 19 mate, my first insurance company was tescos, they were ok but charged $$$ for mods. Try Liverpool Victoria or Adrian Flux.

your going from a 106 rallye to an rt??:confused:

id much rather have a 172 over any mg! theres an air of class about the 172, the mg is more halfords as some people have said before.

lol, thats alright mate, most of em have been abused! commonly by burberry boys! lol, although most of the burberry boys seemed to have moved on to 1.2 16v clios with lexus lights now! ;) *runs for cover before i start a clio v nova war*

i think most people have some form of accident in their first cars! whether it be a little bump or writing it off. ( i wrote my first car off after 2 months!!:oops: ) i would advise to get a banger, get a crash out of your system, build up a few years ncb and get a valver in 2/3 years time.

mate i dont mean to sound rude, but at 17 are you sure your experienced enough to drive a valver?? the insurance companies charge that much for a reason.

Would it be ok to put this up on a few other forums Jas??

cheers guys, the willy engine does sound the easier route, i suppose it depends on funds at the time;) so far ive been to see 3 valvers; first one was an absolute dog, high mileage, tacky alloys, neons:sick: etc but felt really quick second was an absolutely mint monaco blue example...

Anyone got anymore advice on the tuning side of things??:)

Hello people Iv currently got a mk1 nova but am looking to get rid of it soon and get me a nice clean phase 2 valver, just a few questions! are they really that unreliable?? how much should i be paying for fsh + low miles?? round 3k mark?? and is it worth tuning the 1.8 lump? or...