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Get a CUP with CC. Still a 0.7 SECONDS quicker 0-60.

You got the same deal as me then Wannabee. A few hundred quid more but first owner and with someone you can have a face to face barney at if things go wrong. Now the hard part - the 3 month wait!!

What if its delivered after 5pm and its dark or if its been raining and you cant examine the paint properly?

Dealers wont match the best broker price. Ordering from the broker will be cheaper but you will probably be the second registered owner of the car and you might find it difficult to reject the car if it had some bad defects.

Do you want a dealer supplied or pre-registered broker car?

Maybe a new version of the CUP too. Probably with the performance upgrades as standard but without the luxuries?

Anyone know what these new colours are like> Are they available already in the clio range? Not sure that non-metallic blue will look all that good. And I wonder how close the dynamo blue is to CUP blue.

The V6 is probably heavier and is rear engined so it may not stop as quick.

If you havent already - look at the media section of this forum. Theres some great shots of the new V6s waiting to have alarms fitted at the UK compund.

Thanks, Ive found the images button now :) http://www.mindphaser.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/images/172mockup2.jpg

Yes, it has bigger wheels with more spokes. Although they dont look great. And the blurry pic on the page looks like a new blue colour similar tot he CUP.

Dealers dont do pre-reg cars (unless they have registered a car to meet targets). MIKE is getting from a broker I think.

You cant get CUPs on import.

Cool. Tell them what YOU want to pay and that youll give them the order there and then if they do it for that price. You can leave a deposit by credit card. I havent even been in to the dealer yet. Keep a few URLs handy of the broker sites that do them for the cheap prices and that they are...

The sub 12k ones are brokers selling pre-reg. I got mine for 12k with CC from a dealer by phoning round and telling the dealers I could get one for £11.6k from a broker and would they compete. One or two just said NO full stop. Another said hed try and would call back when he spoke to his boss...

JULY!!

...and only imports.

CUP with CC. 12k from main dealer. Could have got one for £11.5k pre-regd.

I think this needs to be taken right to the top. Theres no point in asking the dealers. Someone at Renault UK needs to take it up with the actual engineers at Renaultsport in France.

Theyll probably call you later and say its still at the factory.

3 weeks? I doubt it. Especially if its a CC model. They are built to order.

May aswell order it now. You still wont get it until February.

Surely you can get the car on a ramp and isolate exactly what is causing the noise?

How much back dated was it?

I think as soon as they decided to go ahead with the 182 they should have discounted the last of the 172s. I got a good deal on a CUP with CC so Im not that concerned but if Id ordered a 172 Id be pretty displeased. The 182 is going to be in some nice new colours and probably have better wheels...

Is it a continuous rattle when driving? Does it do it when the car is stationary?

Interesting how people slated those pics before when they are clearly genuine.

Most modern 16v engines are vvt.

Duh, 172 has 170bhp so 182 will have 180 bhp = 10bhp more.

I wonder if it will have different wheels as well....