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Had it done and the torque gain is pretty good but its not cheap

JMS do a aircon delete kit for the ph2. No idea if it will fit a ph1 and not sure if you have to buy the alternator ? http://www.cliosport.net/forum/showthread.php?552996-JMS-Air-Con-Removal-Package-(PH2-RS)

Two different kinds for the ph1 (or used to be) yellow and an improved purple one

Its a tight fit but it does go on mate Get some KY put on it ;)

Where did you hire Dermot O'leary from? ;)

Exhaust, induction kit and a remap will see about a grand for not much in the way of gains so against this then i reckon its worth it imo Pretty much even with cams in terms of peak gain?

Search button is your friend. Been covered about 5 million times ;)

Wanted section? ebay? breakers yard?

£100 quid jeezuz :eek: i wouldn't bother mate if thats the case. Did you jack the engine up to gain you more access ?

No acoustic valve mate I removed my original air feeds by just pulling them out. Tidied it up a few years later by removing front bumper

Theres a bolt on the side above the pulleys. Jack the car up Support the engine via the sump (piece of wood between jack and sump for protection) Remove upper Plenum and anything which would get in the way Remove fuel guard Remove fuel pipe from rail Remove fuel rail. Remove all the front...

Just remember the jack for supporting and the nasty side bolt

IIRC while the ph1 has bigger exhaust ports the ph2 maybe 182? had larger inlet

I'm quoting what you wrote in that post ;) End of the day if you peaked 197 with this fitted (172 him - 182 you) it would be seen by most as a heck of a good gain

Yeah but every car is different. What he had previous and what he's gained as the end result is what matters. Folk take RR figures as the be all and end all. Its easy to fall into that trap.

Ah dynamic CR. Reading fail on my part sorry :o

How comes your CR is lower after fitting cams ? :S Surely CR wouldnt be effected

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Its like toe nails. They do nothing but you wouldn't go to the trouble of removing them lol Can appreciate removing it for the brake duct. Other than that, seems a lot of hassle for no point

When you say sluggish do you mean like lag when its off cam ? I bought a spare bottom end, not sure whether to forge it prior to fitting. Its mostly a road car but do the odd quarter mile.

Ah right i see. Is there no way it could be just relocated?

Whats the point in removing it? :S

Just out of interest: Do high compression pistons change the way a car feels to drive? Will it make the car more lumpy to drive under normal road driving and / or sluggish at low revs? Does it shift the power more towards peak or will the power remain the same across the graph ?

Ported, polished, light skim and valve seats cut 3 angles. Initial work was carried out at a local engineering place and then perfected by AWT (angel works) via GDi years ago.

Iv always had above average torque levels from the 172 with basic other modding. Pretty sure the reason why has been the headwork

I'm gonna change too. Sick of it cutting out and having a dodgy line. Its every time i speak on the phone!

As above. On a 172 / 182 the flange types wouldn't mate up being the wrong way round

Lucas (motor factors) did mine years ago for £20.

I find Orange absolute crap since this T-mobile signal merge thing. At home it constantly cuts out when im on the phone. Never used to do it. Also in general, the signal is really poor compared to before imo

Even if he is the best mechanic unless he has experience with these engines it counts for little