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im not argueing with myself lol. the driving experience will be the same.but it will still NEVER be a trophy, unless it was manufactured as a trophy. a green williams is still a williams a capsicum rs500 is still an rs500...a tweeked cossie even tho it may have the same bits as the rs500 may...

lol. so a 182 with trophy stickers seats and susp is a trophy then?? the plaque means nothing. this must be the case with the mk1 valvers and williams' too then. fukkit, why pay the premium of a williams when a sports blue valver is exactly the same with widetrack and interior/wheels...

not all cars no. the pigment in the red paint will turn it pink in time. isnt there already a thread on how to try look after the paint on here?? if you turned up to look at a trophy and the paint had faded and turned pink....would you then assume that this wasnt a trophy due to it being...

lmao. read the thread properly. its not about the cost to him. its about his personal preference. which is why people mod their cars. not everyone has the same preference. which is why people either buy a std car and put their mark on it by doing something to it that THEY want to. as for the...

at the end of the day, what you, i, or anyone else thinks is of no importance. if the OP wants to paint his car, whats the big deal?? its not as if its something that cant be put back to standard now is it?? hes already said his mate will be doing the respray so wouldnt cost all that much, to...

hmmm. how many people have had bodies, s/c kits, turbo mods...do they return their car back to std to sell, or do they leave them fitted to offer something diff to a buyer in the hope theyl get more money for it?

fitting non std wheels/exhaust/susp/eng mods will also devalue the car. the colour change would too. but that isnt what he asked. if the OP wants to change the colour thats his choice. the majority of people on here devalue their car with nothing but praise from other members. yet this lad gets...

lmao at the 'resale value' diatribe. most people on here spend a decent amount of money modding their cars, whether it be the obligatory silvervisions or a s/c kit. do these same people do this to add value to their car?? cos by the comments of most of you, adding anything that will devalue...

from what i can gather the sachs suit the clio cos of their valving. most aftermarket coilies tend to make the ride a bit crashy over rough roads/surfaces. if the lad wants to paint it whilst its in his possession, why not. its the 'iconic' driver involvement thats the seller really is it not...

and does this improve the quality of the drive at all??? no.

money no object. would you buy used???

what a load of b****cks. is a silver williams not a williams??? even tho it was the teams colours for the rally cars?? the colour does NOT make the car, the drivability DOES

how much are the sachs shocks??? £1000 a side or summat daft arent they?

would be cheaper to respray it twice than retro fit the sachs shocks.

get rid of the angel eyes, lexarse rears and rims and it would look loads better. imo

1. doesnt the trophy have a plaque?? so pretty easy to distinguish. isnt it also on the v5?? again...easily distinguishable. 2. the colour wont ruin what this car is about......the drive. 3 a colour can spoil a car, i mean look at a williams in 432...ruined. lol go for it mate in my...

tell them to fcuk off imho. or at the very least turn their hearing aids down. you should also point out that it only has 1 exhaust pipe, but 2 tailpipes. tell him thats to halve the noise it would be if just 1 tailpipe, and youd be willing to modify the car to that if he so wishes.

also, some people will quite happily put up with shoddy workmanship cos they know no bettter. i know of ppl that have slated certain companies to fuk whilst getting work done at other companies, and putting up with dire mapping from their chosen co. they got their car independantly mapped to a...

?? a r/r prontout says nothing about the ecus ability to be mapped by another tuner. unless the place remapped the ecu and the printout shows the inferior 1st maps run with a properly mapped run overlayed on it.

use another ecu then. im sure there are other mappers that could map it tho if you used that.

on a more serious note tho. thats the 1st time iv EVER heard a tuner say that their map isnt better than ktecs...if thats the case id run away.....very quickly ....from the tuner that said it tbh.

was wayne there then? ;)

mistake no.1 if you want good power, and better economy, get it mapped by someone who knows what they doing.

oh the irony.

i know you're a suvernaaaah. but speak fukkin english. your post makes absolutely zero sense. can see how you get on well with gally though

about the same down the 1/4. give or take a couple tenths. round a track. the williams is quicker. why dont you check out your bible..... evo mag?

no my mums?? lol. wrong guy. I own both of mine yes

lmao. the only thing a puma is superior to is walking. and thats debateable. i dont think anyone back in the day posted the things they did for some kind of hero status.

well if anyone on this forum is worthy of being labelled as a r****d making retarded comments, its you. so i guess you have the right to say that. the old skool of us on here post things weve done, be it right or wrong legally. no matter. i guess back then we were more mature as to when/where...

dont think hes saying we should praise it. just that ppl on here should be less hypocritical