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i wouldnt think so. bet you virgin is 14999 + 160 tax + 300 ish for met paint + 50 ish for reg and plates ? + poss admin fee + poss delivery fee ? i spoke to virgin about a month ago. emailed a woman there a couple of times and she said ring up and we will beat any deal you have got. rang up...

Think this is the best deal around ... £15399 OTR, UK franchise supplied, inc metallic paint, inc road fund http://www.buymynewcar.co.uk/car_details.asp?vehicle_id=1376http://www.buymynewcar.co.uk/car_details.asp?vehicle_id=1376

ready for this guys ................ the other dealer near me ....... £69 inc vat for oil change with me supplying the oil. WTF !!!!!!!!!!!!!! .....

4.75 on 182 (so prob same on 172)

I live in the north west. Goin to try a couple others coz there is no way im payin 40 odd quid for them to drop the oil and change a filter.

Just phoned my local dealer - £35 + VAT supplying own oil. WTF !!

^^ Saturday hopefully! Not doin it myself because i think the oil filter is a bit of a nightmare without a ramp.

The best way would for everyone to go to one supplier (i.e shell or who ever) and use no-one else. Would be great to see what would happen !

Mine just turned up today from Debz at Total Butler. Top service and top price !

^^ one thing for sure is that reno wouldnt get the business!

yip, blitzed 2 cooper ss. and very close against cooper s works, but clio had edge.

for a second there i thought it said £17k !

sorry, this was on driven a while ago with jason plato driving. so how would the statement the 182 will beat an s2000 go down ??

come to think of it do you remember the shoot out with the civic and the s2000 and the civic actually overtook it. (think it was 5th gear). now i thought i would have no chance in my 182 vs s2000, let alone nearly overtake it ........ go figure ?!?!?!

In the first 7 seconds the honda should have been 1/2 second in front. .... according to the book stats. ;) ... so the 182 is obviously a quicker car round the track!

end of day nothin in the 2 cars - its all on the day! watch the top gear vid against that one last night. the stig certainly new how to throw it round a track.

225s will be a nice price then aswell though, prob even pick up a trophy fairly cheap.

just realised warrenty runs out end of march 2007 aswell.

maybe in march 2007 when they have lost their first £3k or so. learnt my lesson with the 182.

£11,995 - that is what a brand spanking 182 with cup bits is brand new. 182 CUP is prob about £10,995 brand new. ..... if you have a look around....

does look good. is it me or does the arse end look a bit ford ka ish?

I think it will be heavier as reno are really pushing their safety side of things. Surely 200 bhp MAX. Its took 10 years to get from the willy to the 182 and that is 30 bhp difference. An extra 20 bhp in 1 year seems a lot if you ask me. wonder what the insurance group will be. surely they...

^^ what about inconvenience, loss of days pay etc..

£165 + £29 for pollen filter (will be ringing round next time!)

did they check the pollen filter mate? that is normally £19 on top of the service.

I got advised against going with full closure (if this is the same thing) because the relays are not good on the clio and will feck up the motors very quickly. (or something along them lines).

is it possible to remap while your there with an smt6 or somethin ?? then you could try out different maps and see at what power wheel spin is reduced, when the turbo comes in etc.. dont know a great deal about all that so just a thought !

I know what you mean mate, i have 12 week old baby but have the key slot in mine to turn off. I would want it to be 100% reliable that it would NOT go off in an accident. Can be fatal to a baby in a car seat if the airbag goes off! I would seek some professional advice from an...

Is cambelt engine out job?

which is a bit silly considering half the time they dont work coz there is no water in the tank because it has all leaked out ! (BTW - cant be arsed taking it back for them to NOT fix the problem again) .