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i had just springs on my old car, its like doing half a job, if you want to lower it and feel the proper effects, you need the matched shortened shockers................dont be tight, do it all first time round, Apex shocks are lifetime warrantied too...... :D

ok, experience shows, 60mm Pi is good for looks and looks only, get a full kit, matched springs and shocks are THE only way to go, Apex -40mm is what i have and its great, and the -60mm kit seems to give a good compromise between the looks of the Pi, and the useability of the -40mm Apex!! At...

agree, if u potter about for ages (i do sometimes) its like the car gets used to it, so when u do boot it, seems to need time to adapt to it.........then it goes in "rev-me" mode :D

im having it!!

My views on this are pretty simple..........if i had a proper setup R-sport motor like a 182 with cup pack etc, i would leave it! My 1.2 was -60mm on just springs when i got it and although it looked good, it was awful to drive, and threatened to throw you into the nearest ditch on the best of...

*and if they aint solid and it leaves two holes, they can be nice air vents hahaha

cant u just get the ends smoothed down to match the middle??? wud look better that way

Tell me about it mate! Hell mine is only a 1.2 but i know that exact feeling............had a 1.2 clio for about 3yrs plus..........still love it! ***where are those keys.........

personally.......id leave it a week.....especially in winter.....probably no need, but i would :)

erm, AutoBodyCraft in Ravensthorpe are pretty decent buddy! Near Mirfield / Huddersfield.........if thats any help to you. Rob.

hahah, did the garage tell u to fook off when u asked them to do it?

Like i said Gee, need daylight mate, and u aint picked the best time of year to f**k about wi stuff like this without a garage :confused:

yea but u canny reconnect the connector as the cup one doesnt come with the connector on it........if ya see what i mean. U will sus it out gee!!

zzzzzzzzzzz why do i always have to explain lol!! 6 screws from inside boot and spoiler comes off..........pull upwards too as there are clips (probably break them anyway - not essential). Ok, brake light wire needs extending.........i soldered 2 tails from the CUP LED, put a snap in connector...

limited knowledge, but i had an older pioneer wi a remote, and it doesnt work on my new basicac MP3 pioneer player...........but it is a basic model?

lol.........Gee, if u want a listen to mine, gimmi a shout (he only lived bout 3 miles away from me Col lol) But, i aint got the sub in any more, too heavy and too much rear weight...........amp now runs some 6x9s for the bass. I need to disconnect the std tweeters too.........as the good...

ok.........i aint no golf expert really, but i read the new one is pretty good........so........is the R32 gonna be THAT much better than the new GTi?

yea could be the wiring, common fault for the metal cover at the back of the engine to rattle about and rub through the wiring loom......im on my 2nd clio too, and BOTH cars went in for that fault. Rob.

nice one matey!! Alan i know u got 16s and me 17s, but how would u say the height differs between mine and yours?? Front especially

good job boyo, good job LOL

Gee thats day one u tit lol, if the 40mm looks as it does now, i dont think the 60mm is gonna be higher, otherwise it wud be a less than -60mm drop ;)

**i miss my front tints!*

Gee im gonna try n get Alan to post on here, he has the 60mm apex kit on his, but the fanny canny take decent pics..........hahah....await a flaming............Alan should be able to help us out here :)

i aint got any recent up close ones Gee, just the one from the first day the kit was fitted. It has settle a bit since then, over time its gonna settle down more for sure........ LOOK at how high on day 1 lol http://erc.qmuc.ac.uk/cliosport/gallery/full/1093461358__40mmfrontday1.jpg

Sheep.........The only thing is th engine weight up front.........the rear springs would fit for sure..........The 40mm springs on mine on the back are not a lot higher than Gees 60mm ones....

http://erc.qmuc.ac.uk/cliosport/gallery/full/1093823105__DSCF0101.jpg http://erc.qmuc.ac.uk/cliosport/gallery/full/1097430077__DSCF0038.jpg http://erc.qmuc.ac.uk/cliosport/gallery/full/1102285365__DSCF0039.jpg

i will check but my front end sits crap in my driveway mate........

coz it will work better as a set, i see what ur trying to do Gee, but even a quality apex shocker couldnt help a Pi 60mm spring that much LOL. Give it a go, u can always put the apex springs on if need be........... personally, a design like this can never be all that great...

nice one, amazing colour with the 18s, look forward to seeing this!!