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I was getting this confused with the RR day :o...I cant make Sunday as its the rents wedding anniversary and I "have" to attend a meal :( But il pop over to frost on the 7th providing people are still doing that??

I wish I never sold that system :(

Vics red does seem to work well on dark cars. From what I've seen anyway

f**k me ifail typing errors or what. :o

^^^ could well be Truro bought my discs from Eurocarparts and I swear the hub size was 32mm. I had to go to bury motospares to get the fucker as they didn't have a 32mm sicket in Stow! f*****s.

Found edde's little write up http://www.cliosport.net/forum/showthread.php?t=162405 ignore some of the dates, as said mines an 02 and had cc and ESP as standard.

Same thing. Edit kind of!

I thought it was 32mm too. Swear that's what my big fucker in the shed is. Could be wrong mind.

^^^^ precisely I believe it was an option??? I know dans 51 reg phase 2 has climate but no ESP. My 02 had them both as standard. My head hurts :(!!!!

It's not to do with power of the LEDs as such. That lm3914 pictured above has an input pin which in theory you would take pin 4 of the red connector too. Now "if" that chip fit whatever gets some kind oscilation through bad connecting up then that input pin "could" have some kind of positive or...

Most 2002 reg sports excluding the cups, came with climate control and ESP as standard. Think cruise was an option. Then in 2003 they came with everything I think. Again cruise might of been an opption though.

Maybe. What I mean is when you tap onto certain tracks sometimes you can induce a small bit of voltage that could have an effect on the signal that's already there. Hard to explain as I'm a crap teacher but when you add a circuit onto that pin you might get what's called oscilation which is a...

I "think" so. Although again I think there are some 51 plate phase 2's that didn't have ESP. I seem to remember greeneys not having ESP. Came as standard in 02/52 although some early 2002 cars might not have it.

That's what you require, providing urs is the same of course. Only fear is tapping into that could cause issues with the signal being sent.

I have an 02 reg Monaco and db has an 03 reg. His has cruise control I think and I think it was only an option on the 02 plates???

Have u got a haynes manual?? Should tell u what pin it is on the connector.

I might even have a load of crap lying around at work that could be used...hmmmm finish work off quickly tomorrow and spend the rest of the day playing with circuits??? If I get a chance I might.

Suppose I could break out the osciliscope and do some readings to see what actually happens with the rev counter at certain rpm. It's obviously signal related you just need a circuit that can convert this signal into limghting LEDs. That component dink gave you does that, haven't looked...

I took my ashtray out and just leave my rstuner plugged into that. What stuff can u do with that then?? Turn off a few lights and basic diagnosis I reckon???

You can already buy a shift lighter me jiggy for a Clio I think, swear I've seen one.

Yes it makes sense but that's a very arse about face way of doing it. And long winded. Capacitors charging to light an led...f**k me that's old old school!

That's why a switch wouldn't work (well not that kind anyway) the needles in a phase 2, if you put them back in place too hard youl find they don't move freely, similar "might" happen if a switch like that is used.

F you really want to try the microswitxh route then find a microswitch that is a double pole, single through, normally closed. I can show u a diagram tomorrow (on my phone at the mo) on how to wire it up so that when the switch is activated it turns one led off and turns the other on.

I think it was the French guys car........

Yes and that will be based on what me and dink were on about in that you'd need to build up a circuit that could do that.

There isn't a switch small enough I don't think, u must of seen how tight for space it is under there.

I can do u a video of how quiet my ktec mild steel is if u want?? mines de-catted though so it will be louder. Unsure of the yozza as i haven't had one.

Tried Camskill?? http://www.camskill.co.uk/products.php?plid=m54b0s13p0 Fitting should only be £10-£15 plus VAT per wheel.

Ahhh sweet Il race you for slips!

An then you would need to shut off the other circuit too