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Would take viper off untill you get a new chip or re map. Had a viper on my old 206 gti and it fu*ked the car up big time. Oil was cream e cut out on me lots and mpg was sh*t. Put a hi flow panal filter in and car was running better than ever quicker faster and a lot more happppppppppy.

Try some fuel cleaner in it . My sis old 106 did the same and when she used some fuel cleaner it was fine. D tox halfords £ 14.99 . [Edited by mr bognor on 05 May 2004 at 6:51pm]

Thats why i drive a 172 mk1 with abs and 4 air bags .

Red dot do a 20 groove disc for £ 187 on demon tweeks but with pads as well you looking at £ 290 ish just for the front . How are the cup brakes would scare the sh*t out of me with no abs the mad french g*ts jack up the power and then do away with the abs ?????????????

Fuc*ing Renalut robbing me of all the horses dam french rubish but with only 156 it still feles like 200 + and sod all you lot my cars going to have 177 and that is final : )

Saw a k tec full cat back and said a + of 8 bhp . Sounds a bit to good but with a green cotton air filter ( a panal air box one ) + 5 bhp sounds about right .

What will the bhp be on my mk 1 172 if i have a green freeflow cotton air filter and k tec full cat back. Will it be pushing out 177 a gain of 5 bhp ?

Down in bognor regis and dont no of any in this neck of the woods Maby i should just go for a free flow green filter an k tec cat back hat u think ? [Edited by mr bognor on 30 April 2004 at 8:53pm]

Is this the bore / stroke valves ect or somthing difrent

I looked at the DIY guide and see it is for the cup is it the same fot the 172 mk1 ?

You going to do it your self ?

Smart want a viper very bad had one on the old 206 gti but it fu*k up the block as i put it on without any other mods . Have you one on that sweet red 172 and is it good ?

Can you fit it your self an£ what is the damage £

Is there a of the shelf ecu that i can buy and fit myself for my mk 172. i have seen the pig e back ones and superchips ones cos i would like to get a viper but was told not to get one without geting a new ecu or remap .

i think that it is the same prob as JONATHAN as there is no clunk no nothing at all. Thanks for the info

Yer doen all that it said in book but on cold air ( not that i need in in this wether) is still under warranti so not a prob just thought it may be somthing simple thanks all

Hi to all . Have a problem with the air con on mk 1 172 IT DONT WORK. Have pushed all the buttons and little light comes on on the button but get no cold air is it a fault or am i being really thick

Viceroy did you do it yourself ? And Yeecup if the cat is so hard to get off how about just the cat back ?

How hard would it be to fit by my self is it just a case of take the old parts off ie cat ,exhaust back box and pun new ones on as i have not a lot of good mod shops down hear in sunny bognor regis.

GR8 as i was asking sunday about air filters and vipers and was told to go for a free flow panal filter as i was not going to change the ecu but i wanted just a little more power. So i could do the air filter panal , sports cat , and full system with no change to the ecu yes.

If you fit a performance exhaust do you need to change the ecu or is it ok just to change the exhaust alone as i do not want to change my ecu on my mk 1 172 . Was looking at performance exhaust and sport cat on k tec and what sort of power/bhp gains would this bring Thanks .

Thanks a lot all of ya for the info. Will try a panel filter from bb .

so the free flow panal will be best over the viper as im doing no other power mods.

Had some e.b.c brakes disc/pads all round on my old 206 gti ( good car but a joke compared to the old 172 ) found that they were very good and very sharp with 0 brake fade but at a cost of £ 680 toooooooo much money .

I no i will sound like a right t*t but what is running lean am not a complete novice around a car but have not got a clue what this means ??????????

how about the ones with groovs are they any good. Does the brake changes muck up your insurance or is it only power mods that does that ? PS is it true that the front brakes do 90 % of the braking on a 172 as they are huge at 288 mm the size of dinner plates ?

Is that the only mod you have ?

What would be the best to do on changing the brakes on my mk 1 172. Change pads all round for hi performance ones or change just front disc and pads to hi performance ones as rear ones are fairley new ???????

But i thought that the cotton ones were more free flowing ive seen one on bb that looks like a green one for about £ 40 - %5 . So you think that a viper would be a wast of money without maby a chip or ecu re map i can see why you say go for a replacement filter over a viper as your getting...

Hi all am a new member and just got my 172 mk 1 last sat. Very Very happy with it and just need a bit of info on air filters. What would be the best thing to do a pannal filter or a viper . I will not be doing any other mods than an air filter so would be gratefull for opinions and advice on...