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mine is a 53 plate and dosnt have CC. You still get the esp/traction control though and they are more important imo.

tbh I would rather be parking my 172 than my old mans pug 406 estate (or alot of bigger cars). At least its short and the wheels are close to the corners.

Standard air box with an ITG filtre and just pull the cold air feed out sounds good imo

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If that doesn't work then pull the top of the steering column trim off and check the connections. Thats what fixed mine the other day;)

I got a good £100 off my insurance for been a member of CS so worth doing still. As for this Williams thing, agree to disagree (but remember your on a Clio forum;) ). It wasn't the best car ever and it certainly wasn't the worst car ever. Some people prefer FWD others RWD and some both. You...

zi5dvDeN9NM Plenty more where that came from

I would pay for privilege

LOL:lolup:

Start double de cluching when going into 3 and that should stop it until you get it sorted

Nicley done. Sure I saw you driving from Outlane towards Elland the other week, car was looking nice:D

lol, depends how much. Is it an FF?:quiet:

The 205 won many a rally, how come you aint mentioned those? there closer to the williams than the M3. Also the Corrado VR6 is another fine example of a car that is regarded as a "truly great drivers car" (and was FWD!). I dont remember those winning anything speacial appart from peoples hearts;)

I'm sorry but I still fail to see why a road car can only be classed as average unless it had a counterpart that won races??

And the Clio V6 is a cheap and cheerful rwd car compared to a Ferrari;)

Its a modern classic because it was one of the best in class at the time and set new standards in that class. It takes more than just winning races to make a great ROAD car.

The problem is a car does not have to have great racing pedigree to be a truly good car as it were. Most racing equivalents are substantially different to there road going counter parts anyhow.

To say all FWD cars are average is a very BOLD statement to make and just so untrue LOL:D

You can't beat Iceburg under the right light:cool:

As in your running it on LPG with a 2nd tank?

How would it stand insurance wise? Would it not void it because you can't really declare it? Think its about the only thing stopping me getting one.

User error;) Never had a problem with XP.

We have 2:rasp:

Right I have just checked the reg on confused.com and to save any further confusion, yes it is a 172:approve:

A very nice rare enthusiasts car they maybe but not a supercar

I dont think it was a rep. For a start there is no sunroof and front end damage and a replaced window would explain the windscreen and iirc I think it had disks on the back. Plus who would put a dented (what looked hand painted) bonnet on a rep?

Was a real one I think with a cup wing. Think it had had a fight with a wall and lost or something:S

Z3 probs is a few grand more, wish I could afford either:( Saw a mint yellow delta evo today thinking of cars that stand out as much as a V

Z3M Coupe would have to be in the list;) Has to be said the V looks top but imo looks faster than it is which is a shame.

The fact that it has half decent economy when driven normally is a definite bonus though. Most people cant/don't want to rag around it all the time.