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I think its meant to be a piss take video i.e taking the piss out of GT5??? Anyway I am getting bored of 'Death' by crappy YT videos!

PMSL I aint hoovering no dog hairs out of your new ride si ;)

^^So the std cars whilst some way off the premium cars, they look nothing like the pixelated Mx5 above?

Came in first, first, first in Montreal, loving the Villeneuve track!

I really can't see the Std cars looking not only worse than gt5p but worse than gt3. I suspect someone has edited that mx5 in paint!

I'll tell you if its rubbish come Wednesday next week. As has been said this constant tirade of negativity from forza fanboys is getting somewhat tiresome...

Please don't post ill thought out ignorant crap. Take the time to find one post from me in this thread that states GT5 Roolz? Or indeed actually anything mildly positive? My only criterion all along is that it would be good to actually await the finished product or reviews and not have all...

Your right boys I am sorry its just a complete load of s**t, silly me for wanting to actually play the game or even to await a balanced review. Damn what a school boy error! Won't be making that one again. GT5 officially shite do not buy!

Can I have one of the copies you keep under your bed Roy so I too can speak with such experience?

Not at all! All I want is to be able to evaluate the game properly when it comes out yet the armchair experts with 3 copies under their beds all know better, by all means check my posts but I don't think you'll find any such comments by me. Yes F3 was king of the bull shot, I suspect GT5 is too!

That may well be the case, I for one am coming to GT5 as someone who hasn't played the previous ones (well ok a little on GT4) who hasn't been part of previous forza/gt forum wars. I simply wish to evaluate the product when its in my hands. Instead this thread has been subjected to thousands of...

Its always good to pursue it but lets face it if you realy thought they would achieve that your more loony than your posts come across as! Have to say if it wasn't for all the trolling, negativity and general bull s**t hot air, this thread would be 5 pages long and there would be no hype!

LOL so Forza 2 was fundamentally flawed then, didn't stop it getting rave reviews and love from everyone on here. I said I didn't want to get into a row over it and I don't...

Hardly deluded lol I am just making a valid point that whilst I agree with you it would be great if all cars had interiors just because some do not does not make the game fundamentaly flawed. fun·da·men·tal    /ˌfʌndəˈmɛntl/ Show Spelled[fuhn-duh-men-tl] Show IPA –adjective 1.serving as, or...

^^But its not missing them at all Roy, theres plenty of cars that have the interior view, even without it it will still be playable it ain't broke - deal with it iirc...

Oyster? A fundamental flaw would be s**te handling (which stil may well be the case!) just use one of the 200 cars with interior views if its that important to you!!

2 good points Mr Munson and whilst I can't defend them, they aren't deal breakers. Car lists are personal, yep they could be a lot better but I suppose if your a ricer you'll be made up lol! Yes it would be great to have a 1000 premium 'new' cars but I suspect the std cars will look better...

Out of interest what are these 'obvious failings' that everyone is talking about given no one has actually played it yet? Genuinely not trying to start a row just keen to know what I have missed!

And i thought you were a pro bifcaids ;) TBH I love this game although am not very good, just starting Montreal (canada) in first season and have had it since launch! that said i have been learning the tracks without racing lines as I found they juts put me off and they are not always the best...

I hate bloatware, its on all laptops nowadays, even hitting the phone market, why can't manufactures leave windows well alone !

I haven't been killed by a sniper rifle either, maps are way too small for sniper usage, scoped smg is overkill iirc

Awesome spec, packing that graphics card in my own laptop. Mr pants if they even make an Apple at that spec it would be silly money!

Lol my mate set up a match yesterday around my house and I was gobsmacked that I had landed in a game with my entire friends list! Little did I know he had pressed the training mode by mistae but cool function that it uses your friends list!

Guys does black ops have the perk stopping power? Can't see it thats all!

Yes to be fair dealing with replacement consoles isn't a rareity for M$ :p

Its getting some good reviews!

Grid was an arcade racer, F1 2010 whilst not a PC sim has an awesome handling model and its so far removed from Grid its not even worth saying in the same sentence. You can really tell what the cars are doing and you know when you've overcooked it before the car spins - awesome stuff. Patch...

Thats good to know! I suppose the pc/xbox coding is simpler than the ps3 stuff?

I'm currently going reach a chance. I liked the way they built the tension in the first scene where you were hunting the covenant. Only disappointment was when you found them, they were so damn cute lol! Good graphics and sound though.

Xbox patch now out at a whopping 2megs ! Hope they have crammed everything in there!