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Not forgetting keyless entry. Difficult to use a key when you've got a double shot skinny cap in one hand, and a man bag in the other.

Real men don't whine about refinement ;)

Bad given that it's no quicker. Amazing that the heavier golf gti can easily match a 172 on fuel.

Not sure they'd fit.

I've never got the attraction with these. Heavy, not great looking (imo).

Lol. You strangling a nephew?

That Vee ever get up Birmingham way, M40 etc?

The Fred's working away all weekend iirc.

At that price, it's really gaz afaik. But compared to the Trophy set-up, they're poor. If it's just temp, get standard 182cup suspension than sell it when you're done.

BTM. Close to you, unbeatable work.

Place near silverstone, ask on cliotrophy. Under £400 iirc.

I'm B14, bang smack in the middle of Harborne!

Standard 182cup shocks. Refurb only takes few days. Lol at Gaz.

Very good

Audi said the early cars were safe without the spolier, just suspension changes.

As above?

Re: c**k in a blue 182 She clearly was ;)

As above, that happens if it's not applied correctly.

Excellent if used correctly. Once it's dry you must go over with a damp cloth, makes all the difference.

Under a year old. Sent ktec a pic with it jacked up as high as the exhaust could go, clearly still visible. They didn't want to know.

Missing the point. The golfs you speak of were designed at a time when high insurance was killing off the hot hatch. Over the same time period, the hot clio's have remained on a par, all those around them (in general) have got quicker.

Again, I don't agree. The cooper s feels far quicker than the Clio. I've yet to drive a 197 that felt like it had near 200hp. But regardless of speed, the sense of energy and fun was sorely lacking IMO. I've yet to spank a 200, so couldn't say.

Mines been fitted by 2 seperate guys that I know, it's shite.

Hardly hate! I just don't blindly accept that a cars better as it's newer.

I can't say strongly enough how bad the ktec is. Badly fitting, blowing, sounds crap. So bad I'm trying to swap mine for a standard system + cash.

I don't agree. Most performance cars get quicker as they evolve. Focus st, focus rs, golf gti etc. Whilst getting safer.

Driving position, yes. The rest no.

Just shows that modern tyres, fancy suspension, epic brakes, and more power can't make up for putting on weight.

Depends what you want tbh. At that height, I imagine the handling's not going to be great. I wouldn't want mine that low.

Minutes for both. Maybe I was just lucky.