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True, and the looks are subjective tbf.

How is that pedantic fella? You thought the price was 30k, it's a fair distance from that? And def not half price? Impressive performance from the 200, I can't wait to have a go in one, if the steerings improved they've addressed pretty much every issue I had with the 197 tbh.

As per usual, nonsense. As Sutcliffe mentioned in the video, thats flat out driving in a controlled environment. You'd be an utter prick to drive either of those cars that hard on the road.

Focus £25745 200 cup £15750

Flol, half price! How? The FRS is 25k iirc.

Like a wart? Still f-ugly.

Impressive video. Be interested to see the lap times with the same driver in each car.

For a good basis, can't go wrong here IMO http://www.cliosport.net/forum/showthread.php?t=430369

As a standard road car, the cups the better drive. But if modifying, has zero benefits other than the colour.

Had a play with an iphone at the weekend, I just can't get on with touch screens. It's the best I've used, but still pisch for me.

I want to, but sack paying £800 for it.

I know but in 15 inch, I'd have to have either Toyo T1r's or PE2's. The T1r's are good in the dry but not in the wet, and I don't get on with PE2's.

The more I see albi blue, the more I love it.

I'd always go for a 172 over a cup, I believe ABS is too useful to give up on a road car. Bear in mind markcup (driving) is a handy driver.hVL7cqqWg6Y

Yes. The ph1 is a better basis for a track car IMO. Pretty much as light, but cable throttle, 15" wheels, and cheaper.

That's the only thing I'm thinking of, the black really suits flame red.

I'm quite happy with them. If I do follow my original plan of a Viper green wrap for the car, I think the OZ's would look great refurbed black.

The Meg's a better car, quicker, better built etc. But not as much fun (IMO!), and I really couldn't care less about build quality, refinement etc. IMO, if I cared about those things I've no right buying a hot hatch! Got it driving just as I want now, so doubt there'll be any more changes...

Wanted to go back to 16's, wider choice of tyre in 205 width.

Will be up for sale after the weekend, just need to give them a clean.

Mmmm, seems like they're going to split opinions!

Comments welcome! And the old one's for comparison

Mine's 11" Around.

Helps with traction, but also made the car very adjustable. Easy to get the car sideways if you wanted as well. Few laps of Bedford gD99X4DDOZs No idea on the strut braces fella!

Not sure on height fella, mine haven't been fully set up. Be interested to see what heights etc you go for.

Use a decent motorsport garage for the set up. For track use at Bedford I hate mine set to full soft on the front, and max stiffness on the rear.

My sources say no

I love it!

Your car sounds mental, remember it at Oulton.