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but they are newer....so they must be better....whenever they were built they are still classed as newer, if registered later. how u can class the 172 better than a williams, and a 182 better than a 172, and a trophy better than a 182 is beyond me. the trophy and the williams are fairly...

so there were no more 182s registered after all the trophys?????? but the 197 is better.......so the extra money would have been well spent. ;) but for something to be better, means that whatever its better than, must be rubbish compared to the newer better thing no??

but the trophy s are rubbish compared to the 197....jamies logic says so. ;)

in what respect?? that would also make the 197 better than the trophy in ur random reasoning?? i know which id have given the choice. i fully appreciate different needs/wants/feelings. but tbh, if your going to buy a clio, coming from another clio.....then obviously your...

not sure wot spec they were tbh mate. like i said......wasnt my car lol. the ecu was mapped for my engine on 260 kent cams .

just had catcams in mate. i put my ecu on for the day, which wasnt mapped for cams or car. evrything else was as reno intended

and ur opinion is wrong the mk3 escort better than the mk1+2?? the new mini better than the original?? the new beetle better than the original?? the 197 better than a williams?? u avin a fukkin giraffe???

it worky for me.......

hmmmm must be a manufacturing problem......mine went BANG at about 140 ish.......was errrrrrrr.......pushing an alfa up the road lol. seriously tho mate, the bottom ends on the williams are bulletproof. i have been known to kill an engine or 3 in my other cars, minis, countless, golf, 1...

well we like to give the newer clios a bit of a head start to give em a chance ;)

tbf the ins group means most chavs cant afford em. which means the thrashing is usually done by ppl who actually know a thing or 2 about cars. so the thrashing in a williams will no doubt be less severe than that of a 172..... personally tho, i think the williams es need a good thrashing to...

tbh mate id be looking at whoever did the build on it. fair enough the cambelt snapping cant be helped..................but crank warping??? iv done numerous trackdays, dragstrip weekends, and general hooning around, the only thing thats ever really given me any trouble was the chocolate...

y? same spec the f7 is quicker. 260 deg cams etc. and by a long way.

metal and rust.....will always be an issue. something you thought reno would have sorted out a bit better, but judging by all the newer cars rusting im not so sure. maybe they just got better at hiding it for a while ;) mine are still on 3 out the 4 original arches, 2 of them showing no...

no competion really. williams all the way. comfier, generally quicker, and loads more fun

yeah they wanted an asw for the interview, and a genuine car for the pics.......go figure ;) lol

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brave man..........i wouldnt have fancied it in this weather tbh..fair play

how bout a clio meet/bike ride?? lol throw the bikes in the back, drive up the hill, il leave the van in hebden or summat.....hehe....then throw the bikes down the hills

dykes weirdos n southerners......

real number 1 matt n phil..............wel have to have a scallyfax mini meet lol.

u go in shoulder? or hole? lol ;)

altho the other side of the valley is a whole lot better. a lot of 'night time only' roads that side tho.

Re: Blast though Hills around Halifax. Pic Heavy accident waiting to happen.....nutter......dickhead.... just a few of the comments on the williams driver going past. not my fault they all had no balls........lol

Re: Blast though Hills around Halifax. Pic Heavy was a good meet that.....apart from the slower clios going up the hill getting left by the bus ;)

Re: Blast though Hills around Halifax. Pic Heavy have u ever left your street????? lol top road that. like it lots. some good 100+ corners, lots of bumps. and some fantastic scenery

alright rob

nice thread mate. dunno how iv missed it tbh lol. cars lookin well. btw...water pump is a couple hour job with engine in situ. ;) and gsf supply most parts, belts etc ...cheaper than reno......and they even come in a reno box ;)

why fit a new head for just 8 bent valves??