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what about 197 top end on a 172 block but with 197 management? That an option?

now before anyone starts the not worth it, too much work usual crap, im not thinking about doing this and looking for advice, im just more interested in the technical side of things as it seems quite an interesting conversion for the future. recently as 172 engines came down in price people...

First RS clio i was in ^ back in the day lol

if hes going to let it go for £2800 then id be wary to be honest if hes being pushy, especially with all this talk of it being "known" on here

id be checking all the steering joints.

afaik a MK1 172 has a longer 5th gear ratio than a MK2 172 and VTS's have quite short ratio boxes? depends if the saxo was standard, keeping in mind a saxo with only a few breathing mods is going to be probably over 140bhp? some standard 172s run as long as 145-155bhp! so its going to be close...

i really really want one only thing is my car is only really a weekend car for going out blasts with the boys in the summer and it spends most of its time in tripple figures speeds chasing other cars so the front end takes a hammering, tyres and brakes are constantly needing replaced and im not...

ive spent a fortune in the past years trying different brakes, exhausts, filters etc and when i total it up it makes me sick and ive not spent a quarter of what some people spend! i started off only improving things i felt needed improved but in the last year ive ended up buying stuff just for...

if it was me, DS2500 front pads, Brembo Disks, braided lines and fluid change, eibach sportlines, Decat, ITG pannel filter and leave it at that!

ive said it years ago and ive just driven my 172 with 15" wheels for the first time, and oh my god no wonder the mk1 172 is the most fun! so much more feedback from them you can really feel yourself getting to the limit, slightly less grip but thats expected with the width you can really throw...

i used AG engine and machine cleaner yesterday as thats the best thing i had lying around and it came up well!

mine sometimes refuses to start at the petrol station, then suddenly fires up on the 2nd attempt. its done it a few times but for some reason seems to happen most at the petrol stations. i recon the TDC sensor needs cleaned ive just never had time.

any turbo imo is going to need a remap. BUT i beleive paul at RSTuning now also does a similar service to Fastchip where you can have an ECU map tailored to your car and emailed to you to be uploaded with the RStuner or RSTuning box (depending on who does the map)

aye saw that going about too, never had a chance to have a blast with any of them, quite fancy destroying them and puting them back in their place haha

why did you take a car that renault spent millions developing so it handled well and drop it 70mm?

theirs plenty going about over 100k that are reliable. thing is, the engine will outlive the car no problem, engines are bullet proof when serviced. the cars are generally Very reliable IF they are driven properly. take it down a backroad daily for 100,000 miles and drive it hard and it...

ive not got the mild steel system your talking about but ive got the 2.5" stainless system and ive ran it with and without a cat. with a cat you pretty much cant hear it around town, motorway its very quiet, not much louder than standard when your up to speed. without a cat its not too bad...

looking at about £1500 for everything needed, Matt does conversion kits with everything needed. most places would charge around £1500ish for labour so your looking at £3000 to do it. only way i would do it is if like me you could do it yourself and save labour then its a cheap power gain!

no one does uprated clutches for them you need to get a custom one made.

ive got a dci65 (not a van but the same really!) its on 150k miles, drives like brand new, as far as i can see its still on the factory clutch, gearbox has just gone with no signs of warning but these things happen as long as its had regular oil changes it will be fine! yep belt need done but...

this comment made me laugh

my standard 172 made 172.9bhp at the fly :)

i find it usefull for hard launches for limiting wheelspin, on a hard launch it doesnt seem to cut power in any way that slows you down just enough to get the power down. rarely switch it off on the road to be honest unless im properly driving hard!

you have a rear wheel drive clio. nice

then its not a RWD issue its a car issue, cars slide on ice.

yeah that would have been me u got the silver dynamique with anthracite 172 wheels by any chance? if so your exhaust sounded nice! not sure on the ibiza mate sits in the retail park in stirling most nights ive been there

250 odd miles in the 172 add a 0 onto the end of that for the dci lol

if i wasnt buying a 182 with cup packs id just get a 172, non cup pack 182 isnt worth the cash unless you get a bargain

pmsl you taking the piss? wait till uve drove a REAL turbo car ;)

im running one with a 182 manifold and a k-tec stealth. i got big gains although i fitted it with a 182 manifold at the same time it runs fine, idles s**t as they all do as standard even with a cat lol no flat spots sounds much better, a bit louder. usual petrol smell when your in...