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That's my fear over the Mustang. Much as I hope Ford have given it a good dose of what they gave my ST there's nagging doubts, at this point enough to stop me chucking cash at a dealer to get my name down for one.

That's no bad thing! I drive on broken country roads mostly and my non-cup 200 was perfect for them.

Checked service docs BTW, as first three services were freebies thrown in by supplying dealer I didn't get a formal invoice as such so can't tell what they used.

They must have focused on build quality much better when they first started making them; mine's almost completely rattle and creak free.

Is your 200 a Cup? If not is it a 200 with Cup suspension pack? Looks to me like it could well be neither of those, silver wheels badly painted black and silver callipers given a rough going over (not even bothering to sort the logos out) to make it look like it has the Cup suspension pack.

Are they not simply non cup pack Brembos so silver instead of red? Possibly with the Brembo decals worn off? If they are four pots I highly doubt they are not Brembo callipers.

The new 2015 one is, yes. Any of the old rental spec models, especially if they come hobbled with an American slush box, are slow as fcuk.

I checked them all yesterday and I've still got between 2 and 3 mm on all four corners! I've been planning since 22k or so for their replacements but they just refuse to wear out. No fluid level warnings so far for me although apart from the slight incline on my drive it's only ever parked at...

Build and dealer issues aside you've never really gelled with this have you Dave? Was the initial hype a bit too much, err, hype do you think or is it just not the car for you? Or is it that you've been stuck with it for a minimum 12 months and for someone with your car buying habits that's a...

My original factory fit pads are still making that low speed noise after I've put 31k miles on them. In my experience it's no different to the sort of noise I used to get running DS2500 or PF97 or Carbon Lorraine pads on my 172 Cup. The standard pads are very capable and with that comes the...

LOL at 25 wheels! I shared your addiction although I only ever got up to 22 wheels for my 172 Cup. Looks very nice, no frills, purposeful. :approve:

This sounds about right to me. Can't say for certain as I've never bought any myself.

Good to see it's all sorted Dave. What do these weigh? Also, do they have really long gearing, something like 80mph in second?

If I had leased mine, even allowing for the fact that I do 19k miles per annum, I'm certain the two year lease costs would be lower than what mine's cost me having bought it outright. I bought mine for the long haul though, so I still have another 3 years and 60k miles all fully warranted by...

Argh. Any other day but this and I'd be there...instead I've got the joy of ferrying around elderly relatives for the weekend.

Is it really £300 for clutch parts? Surely labour when it's already dropped out like that is next to nothing? Regardless, getting it done would be a no brainer to me! Looks much better with non-italic plates by the way :smiley:

Two hands/two fingers? It's quite simple really. I've no idea why dinky screened iphone users can't get their heads around or are so resistant to this technique when you get the joy of a proper usable screen as a result.

In my ST I did way back in August. Fcuk da po-leeeeeece :tongueclosed:

Here's a belated end of year update, this is all of my costs for 19 months and 30,000 miles of ownership;

Looks much better than my bottom feeder fish mouth front end that's for sure.

The session I had as a passenger in a Renault press car around Goodwood backed that up for me. She was full on them for the entire session. But that's not good enough for most because they absolutely positively can't accept that brakes are any good if there's no 'Brembo' logo on them.

They're all like that, over-servoed in the extreme. It's their resistance to fade, lack of dust, pedal feel, and the fact that I've now done more than 30k miles on the original set that makes them a no brainer when it comes to replacement.

Yep. Just LOL at poverty spec. I spent hundreds on my 172 Cup to get close to what the ST has as standard. They may not be big, but the pad compound is ST specific and in a nutshell they're fcuking amazing for standard brakes.

Looks very nice, I'd be in one now if only Renault had the most basic grasp of how to sell cars 18 months ago.

For what it's worth I think the ST looks s**t too...would be much better with the back end of the Clio on it.

A lap time comparison from a standing start, one car with launch control and one car without, means jack s**t. As for the 'box, that's the car's nemesis IMO. It goes and feels and sounds like a Renaultsport Clio should, but you have a lethargic, and ultimately severely limiting, 'box that...

Playing GTA5 entirely in first person view makes it a very different game IMO. Amazing.

That was a good deal...I only managed £10,800 for my new 172 Cup in 2003. I think they retailed for something like £12,995. The ST was a good few grand more but, allowing for inflation, I think that's more than evident in what you get for the money.

Aye. Size isn't everything! They're well up to the task and beyond despite still having a couple mm of pad material left at 30,000 miles..

277 mm IIRC.