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Having owned both, I'd save your cash and get a non cup 172 over a 182. Cheaper for the same basic car. Flame red looks fantastic, and the exhaust is cheaper to replace when it fails. If modifying is a possibility in the future, you have more options with a 172 than a 182 with cup suspension...

Roof. Bonnet looks chavvy on anything but a black car.

RB 182's look fantastic, especially with black wheels. I'd prefer the 182, much better spec and better looking in RB. Although don't discount a ph2 172, the saving alone makes it worth it.

Awesome.

Check insurance before deciding. Some won't cover the cup.

Which springs are they?

Yesturday? Looks nice, boring to drive but built brilliantly.

He's on coilovers. The ride minus cup suspension is a lot better. Doesn't have the same level of body control at speed, and cup suspension would definitely be better on track. But overall, I'm glad I don't have cups packs. Would prefer to have the cup rack though. A small but worthwhile improvement.

Aren't they unsuitable for use in places like the Alps etc? Please note that they’re not approved for use in the Alps where snow chains/ snowchains are required, whatever you might read elsewhere. These snow chain regulations require the use of “metal” components, and even though...

You do love your rusty sheds;)

The easy way to an awesome setup would be h&r's with a whiteline adjustable arb. Will ride well for road use, and be great fun on track.

Of the 2 options, kw get my vote everytime. The set o ast's I had were poorly setup, and poorly built. H&r's are very good, although you'll get the 'track studs' telling you they are too soft (utter nonsense). Although I'd rather change the hubs and get some kw's or billies.

Where did they say the Williams (and by extension the Trophy) is better than a Zonda?

If going for the black roof/skirts etc, it would work best if the wheels were re-done gloss.

Although Ali would probably have kittens, maybe a carbon wrap would be better than black? Looks like the white one may have a carbon wrap? That way, the wheels won't need to 'match'. Or, just get a satin finish wrap?

Not sure on the roof, looks a bit nsx wannabe? Itchy feet=evora s time ;)

How?

I still don't see the point of not getting cup packs. If it was going on coils anyway, at least you would of got the quicker rack, that's the one thing I miss on mine.

Yozza stealth or btb stealth. The ktec is louder than both those options. Heavier too, and poorly made in comparison.

Yep, personally I wouldn't bother if it's a long drive. It's fairly small and there really isn't that much to see. Could see everything in under 2 hrs.

The 197 does look better, but side by side it looks clearly the older design.

They feel much quicker than you'd expect, all the torque is just where you want it in the rev range.

True. Shame it's bundled with a horrendous interior;)

Ummmmm why?

Operates the turbo.

Gt spoiler looks much, much better. Ridiculous that it's an extra on the 200 tbh.

Doesn't mean it couldn't be improved;).

As per, he's on the windup. Don't bite. Only a moron would say that a Clio is in the same class/segment as a focus.

You'd need a custom subframe making up. Be more hassle than it's worth.

For me, it crashes once a day, minimum.