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got it now nice work

Good points there Lucas, well put too :)

"As for 172/182. Well i've yet to see one hand any valver it's arse round the peaks. Maybe they have a bit of squirt on the straights but that can be more than made up in the corners. I'm sure the old skool n/w boys would tell you that." I totally agree^^ I think a comment such as a valver...

Valver still holds its value quite well really Pleasing to see

Pete Its crashes after 1 minute each time for me Any way of getting it in another format or how do i sort it? Tom

I'm PMSL @ rmccardal Valver being slow is quite a funny comment I'd have one all day over a 172/182 even if I had the spare 8 grand + Well, I'd have a williams actually, but my valver is QUICK enough until I get a williams. Funny cos the 172/182 isn't incredibly quicker if were...

Again, I don't think Freebone mentioned anything about racing around in his thread.

Don't think Freebone mentioned anything about racing, just wondered what was quicker in general - a cooper s or his valver.

We wern't discussing this? The point is, saying a valver is slow is just silly! Theyr not amazingly quick admittedly, but slow they are not! lol

Ummm no it's not

The only car that merits gold wheels is the Williams!

Lee the Info wizard! ;)

Noooooo way ^^^ I saw one last week too, looked very Dull. In the sun I'm sure it's different but wouldn't be my choice.

I saw some Bird in the tree and just assumed it was you.. hence the pose next to the gleaming valver! wer going to be banned for blatant hijacking! sorry mods!

I'm actually PMSL! But what a shine eh? Kelly... your job must be a breeze! ;)

LOL Mazza My neighbours think im mad enough cleaning it twice a week as it is! The pumpkin would just be the last straw!

Right.. I'm off to defeat the Cup and clean my valver in my pumpkin costume

NO way!!!! its a direct challenge Im slightly annoyed that the only time you challenge me to that and my car needs a clean grrrrr

PMSL ^^ Shame on you

Looks good but front wheels need a scrub!

I think The Cooper S just slightly has the legs on a valver Not by a long way.....

Either way Joel your going to be paying ridiculous money to insure a 172/Cup

Well try you as the main driver and your mum as a named! Won't be cheaper than your original idea but will save you a bit if you wanted your own policy to start your NCB.

Yeah, Just a thought. Would be genuine and may save you a bit of cash!

Hmm I'm not so sure it would be easy to prove. I'm with the genuine insurance argument here, but I can see the temptation of what Joel was considering. All I did when I was insuring my first car, was add my Dad to the policy as a named driver, and it seemed to help. He didn't drive it much...

Ah so If Joel is driving the car more than the policy holder, it makes the insurance invalid? How would they prove you were driving the car more often if he did crash? He's still covered in case of an accident if he is on the policy? I agree with insuring the car properly, but i'm sure...

How does being a named driver make your insurenace invalid though? Or am I missing something?

"wouldnt mind but I'd had it 4 DAYS!!" I'd be seething if he keyed mine and mines 9 years old!

Wing mirrors weight saving? lol

Looks really clean Silver comes up Trumps! Nice work Tom