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Let's not get ahead of yourself seb, you only own a Clio yer helmet not a veyron. I've had brand new cars before and you waste alot of money with gordons share.
Seb if you actually read what I said earlier I love 197s and would have 1 tomorrow if I could afford 1 but I was just making a point that in straight line performance there not as quick.
Like I said a good cup, I've raced others that are slow. I'm not making this up out of nowhere, Im going from experience. Like I said any1 is welcome to try and prove me wrong, no1 has come forward yet.
On the road so all conditions are covered. You must of had a crap cup and trophy then cos it's the same everytime, the 182 and 172 take over it everytime.
Get a 197 I will bring my cup and I will beat you I garentee it. If your so confident.
Right i'm gonna add something here, 197s are slower than 182 trophys and 172 cup, fact I know this cos I race against them 5 days a week, 197 are by far a nicer car in every way just not straight line speed but in corners they are very good even in the wet which is a big improvement over the old...
Well there's a bar in the back seat that weighs 20kg so there's a start. Smaller rear seats like the 172 cup, thinner windows, take out some sound deadening. Bin the jack and tools while ya on, Would be a good start. I may have to make it my project.
Good points russ. I do like the 197 don't get me wrong it drives like a fast renna should, but just imagine how good it would be 200 kilos lighter. Surley they could achieve it sum how.
Ha more argueing I see. I don't think there is any doubt the 197 is a better all round car, yes I have driven them. But I do agree the 172 cup is the quickest of the rs and a rawer experience.
Are you still talking about that, every1s over it, obviously by your name your a good looking lad but let's move on ay and celebrate another member of the renna family.
I want them to keep it a 2 litre, it's what there good at punchy engines. A turbo from renna could spell disaster. If every1 says lighter lighter lighter all at the same time they mite hear us. That's my only bad point about a 197 it's weight and fuel econemy and performance cos of it.
Well ok I will accept the grief, but when i'm a c**t like that I get pounced on by every1 for doing so and people wonder why when others only come on to do it.
Well the thread suggested an all new Clio smart c**t. So then why are people talking about new engines and stuff cos if it was just a facelift then nothing else will change.
It just looks like a face lifted 197 really. I hope they keep it a 2 litre engine and lose some weight off it. Like say 200 kg but can't see it.
Should start a poll and send it to renna cos we are the people who will be buying the thing.
Well I like them to be honest and it's my car. And you ain't seen the exhaust yet, not purchased by me but it doesn't bother me but others on here hate it.