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:D ok that answered that question for me :D

Is the version in Forza any better compared to PGR3? I'm hoping that a version of Forza is in development for the 360.

I sold my PS2 long ago so have never played GT4, what differences exist between the two versions of the track?

Actually this may be a better vid, it compares it with real footage http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUvnDd7YCsk

You can download a vid here but if the quality is anything like the pics shown then it may not help you decide. Also not sure if this vid was from the final version. http://www.xboxyde.com/news_2200_en.html

I bought my Monaco Blue 172 on a 02 plate for £6300 from a dealer 2 months ago with 32k miles.

:D I think I've already decided that I'll not be in the top 64, I'd be happy to be in the top 500!! I was in the top 1000 yesterday but now i'm somewhere near 1600 :( I downloaded the new cars yesterday, they are quite cool.

Have you set a qualification time yet? I'll make another attempt tonight.

I'll try again tonight to achieve 54 seconds but it's going to take one hell of a perfect lap. I've been so close to it and then throw it all away near the end :( I've yet to master full speed through the chicane, I think that'll help lots.

Has anyone else entered the qualification stage for the online tournament? The 64 quickest drivers will make it onto the next stage. The time to aim for is 54 seconds or less, I'm struggling to better 56 seconds :(

Car is looking great. I love that part of the country, Derwent Water Marina is a excellent place to relax on a hot day.

That'll have been the autoupdate which you have to accept in order to play on Live, the content pack only adds 12 new cars.

BUMP for anyone that missed this.

PGR3 update now available online as well as a premium rate Speedpack: The race to the weekend continues with more content today. The PGR3 'Speedpack' is now available in marketplace. You can buy the 'Speedpack' for 400 points, or each individual car for 60 points each, except for the Aston...

Not bought this yet but the demo was good fun.

Dave would the timing not automatically adjust again over time if you use the higher octane fuel? I have no idea what fuel my car was running for the first 32k miles of use but I'd hazard a guess that it was standard unleaded.

Not a fan of those either

This lists some locations http://www.greenergy.com/products/99_octane_locations.html

I think I'll try Ultimate as Optimax returned worse economy for me compared with standard unleaded.

Excellent choice :)

I'll probably continue to use Optimax but I do sometimes question if it really is required. It's also close to £1 per litre now :(

I've found that standard unleaded returns 35-36mpg and Optimax 33-34mpg, I don't notice any difference with engine idle etc using the cheaper fuel. Do many 172/182 owners here use standard fuel all of the time?

My 172 does the same thing when cold. I had the same concern and asked on here if others have experienced this, several have. I'd not worry about it. The idle is perfect after a minute or two.

My router allows me to share the cable broadband connection and share HDD data between both computers. I didn't need anything other than the router.

The HDD in my mp3 player has lasted well without any problems and it gets carried around just as much as my phone does. I don't think Nokia will have huge problems with the N91 HDD

Monaco Blue Mk2 172

As above, you'll easily find them on ebay.

I noticed that Dixons are selling these for £229 this week.

Same here :)

smf forums are also very good and free.