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well, if you had your car nicked, you'd probably not be happy about, SORN or otherwise. It wont go under your house insurance. Bit of 3rd party F&T isn't going to be a bank breaker, lets face it

Is it any worse than every other RS Clio ever built?

Good lord, that is the most hideous thing I may have ever seen that sports 4 wheels

You see, even though fuel is getting into silly prices, I still see chav nobbers "cruising" around town, making one hell of a racket in their Carnoisseur specials, "racing" each from one side a ring road to the other. Some on son, you're not impressing anybody worth impressing and ****ing...

Kids dont like losing, on PS3 you know they're getting upset when you're switching hosts after a couple of minutes

depends if they decide to bin your driveshaft while they're at it.

Pouring thousands of pounds into a Shopping-edition Clio does not result in having an RS Clio, contrary to popular belief

My 172 will do a steady 40mpgs on motorway running. a typical tank of V-Power will involve a couple of hundred motorway miles and a load of london scuttling. It tends to balance out around 38mpg. Cant believe how ZR's are holding money! That's ridiculous! If I didn't know better, I'd almost...

Much love for an all-boxes-ticked R27 here.

172 does 40mpg on motorways, with climate and cruise in full effect. As for the ZR -v- Clio pricing, my '51 ZR160 (50k on the clocks) got chopped in for 3k when I got the Clio. Don't see you getting £3k for a 1.4 now. :S

ah, fair enouh then, thanks gents. I reckon I'll be keeping with "stickers" though. It's not like I go through a set every few months :)

details of ZR?

don't they bring with themselves the possibility of inbalance / uneven wear though. a tyre may have "4-5mm" of tread, but if it was bedded in by another car, wont that leave a kind of "mark" on the tyre, leading it to wear badly thereafter?

I keep seeing people talking of buying up used tyres as if it's the new craze. Now, after partng company with the thick end of 200 sheets for a pair of front Conti's and an alignment I can easily understand that some may want to save a few quid. But I was always told that getting used tyres...

just get the MX-5, no point throwing good money away

very, very nice.

Keep up the good work.

connects2. alternatively, for a few more quid you could probably get a 1/2 decent replacement HU. Although it'd then cost a few more to keep the stalks and display working.

like that. once you've got those springs on, that should do nicely

Full cream leather.

Would that include teh ones used in the Formula Renault single seaters?..... ..EDIT: Never mind, they only push 192

Nice one, thanks fella.

Well no, but that wasn't really my point. I was trying to convey the point of NA tuning, not using Dave's vehicle as an example. But, since we're on the point (which is, indeed, completely off the point), how much can a RS 2.0 engine bore and stroke out to?

Yep, no boost, just displacement and revs! By subtle I'd also mean:- Original 172 wheels leaving the engine cover on no "slamming over coilies" and keep it as quiet as possible, no sounding like a 1.2 wannabe with a Halfrauds discount card

@homerjay The dash display adaptors come in around 70-80 quid if I remember rightly. Mine was around that anyway, but I didn't do much asking about

Lot of "depends on..." here. I use a sub tube in the boot (not everyone's favourite idea I know) then set a high-pass filter on the HU so the standard speakers dont have to deal with low bass. They work fine like this and I'm using an Alpine 4x50. Besides, HU 4x50 probably means more like...

@Dave Now THAT's how I like to see them! Some NA tuning, but nothing much on the outside to give it away. Hell, if I had 5k to pour into my 172, it'd look exactly the same, hopefully not sound much different but have a nice healthy chunk of extra top end.

When some Jabroni broadsided the missus in the 172 we were given a Cooper S as a courtesy car. It was almost as if it was a completely different car!

PC's for work, Consoles for games. Only because I dont want to turn out another couple o' hundred quid a year just to keep the PC running the new games as they should be run.

Keep it as is. You'll no doubt be given loads of hints for "cheap mods", just avoid them though, you've got insurance, tax, MOT, servicing, parts (as you've already discovered) and fuel to worry about first! Having it lowered will be lovely, right up until to land a bill for, I dunno, a new...