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Very good point on the VTS although same again on the insurance front, i sold my Saxo for the 172 and whilst im delighted with the 172, i still laugh when i think back to the days when people used to call it slow. Citroen claim a 0-60 of 7.5 so its anything but, it was the insurance that...

front or rear? If its rear discs you will probaly need a press to get the old bearing out... Mind and put the thrush washer on the right way now!

Id say for reliability id get the ford, solid!

You put the window down to save fuel? lol You mean lose 6% of the economy your getting with it up? Window down = Parachute effect (drag):o

Amen.:star:

They should have called the 197 the Renault Clitoriis every cun't's got one. Ph1 everytime...

I take it your talking about the Suzuki 'busa?

Id get a Civic VTi mate, there not the worst to insure and uber quick in comparison to the above, 158bhp not to be sniffed at!

Alot of good fast cars out there for 10k at the moment. If its reliability and re-sale value its definatley a toss up between a CTR and a Focus RS. The focus is probaly a tickle quicker but not much. For 10k you would be able to pick up a well cherished Focus RS (not that you wouldnt get a...

Are you willing to consider anything else thats a 1600cc or is it definatley these 2?

This noise you speak of? Does it whisper "miltek,miltek, milllltttteekkk...." when stopped at the lights? lol:o

A racoon maybe?

Hey, dont knock it til you've tried it:rasp: lol

Airbags wont be for homosexuals when your nursing a broken nose and panda eyes boyo! Very nice examples good shoot!

I feel a meet is on the cards gents!

Why bother? Stock on Stock the CTR is faster! end of!

Pmsl!!!^

That and you can feed it sugar and itll go like f**k, horse for the win!:star:

I wish some cu nt would spot me

lol @ shanner, no heard that in ages "heavy shanner"

Aye that sounds about right. I hate when the missus is in the car "gonna slow down" (On the f**king motorway doing 75mph)

Buy a horse.

Your gonna use a 172 for 1000 miles a week? lol Welcome btw.

Play it safe and go for the Uber rare turinis, think they only made 40,000,000 of them so if your quick you might get a set...

For 3.5k? :o

lol, has he got anymore Lotus's?:o

I love this one> "its standard, aprat from the turbo charger, induction kit and full exhaust system" Right so its not fuckiing standard then is it! lol

If its just for general use then i would (And this is only a suggestion on the money saving front) For the sake of performance,reliability,etc i would say go for a 1997/98 Integra Type R. You can pick them up uber cheap and they are pretty much ready to hit the track as sold (that and it...

So its got to be a Renault then, just not a ph1?

The one thing i hate about people saying "its as fast as...." Or "it would beat a...." and then go on and list how its modified to the hilt! When i compare cars i talk about them out the factory with no mods! "That Fiat Uno's as fast as a 350z" * *With a twin turbo supra...