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Yes it feels fast enough etc..I am just a fussy b*****d and want to make sure everything is as it should be :) I am sure the car could be better..maybe I should just leave it alone for a while Lol

172 Nm @ the wheels (edit - long flat curve). Now I must add something here - 18 months back I was managing the same pwr figs and 10 Nm more with a custom tune from Henk. Top end pwr obviously dropped off a lot quicker on std cams..now holds long and strong...but...prior to fitting cams a...

This is a odd point franx - in Aust a std clio (172 & 182's) will produce around 100Kw ATW so mine is in fact higher in pwr in Aust @ 110Kw / 0-62 mph in mid to low 6 seconds - go figure? :-) I would love that explained to me.

Yep 110 kw ATW. As mentioned for some reason local 172 (& 182's mind you) generally produce around 100 Kw ATW. Everyone sort of accepts this here as fact. Why would this be the case? Perhaps UK rolling roads are more optimistic than Australian ones. We have about 2 V6 Clios here imported by...

Sorry - yes locking tools both ends. The mech Barry is from the UK - much experience on these cars. All OE tooling. Does about 50 belts a yr.

OK thanks Fred. That's interesting re the pwr figs. Most if not all 172 RSC's in Aust are lucky to see low 100Kw / or just above ATW in std trim so well under 172 as per the cars name. No I didn't check any markings on the fly wheel (trust mechanic) I watched Barry tighten the pulley's with...

James - where would I get one of those what looks like a V6 box from? I like the set up. I was thinking of moving batt as you have done and laying ECU flat. Is this what you have done?

Re leak down..no. That is really what should be done. Fred - we actually had to do the cams twice. If you remember I had a few dodgey lifters. The crank was pinned correctly, cam tool locked firmly in place..not sure what else one can do? Can anyone translate 110Kw ATW into fly BHP? What...

Hi Fred / Danny - the cams are the ED Mk II. They were fitted using all OE tooling and done by our local snr Renault tech at my place so I partook in the work so can confirm it all went in correctly. Idle MAP @ 1100 is ~420 mb which seems normal for these cams. Car idles well, has good torque...

I think that's sideways danny? Fred too rings a bell. These guys have been a tremendous help before. It's bed time down under so will drop in again in 8 hrs :-)

Nah it's a Green Cotton panel and I keep it clean. It's something else.. For example I have seen a data log of a car running my map (cam retarded at about 6800) same cams..the 02 voltage drops right off as the mixture leans out on that car as the cams really come on song. My car..nuthin :-)...

Yep I have matched inlets. As a comparison I am seeing 110Kw ATW what ever that works out to in BHP at the fly? Incidently as I have been advised one can expect a fair variation in F4R output from the factory. Mine always produced figures a little lower than other in basic std trim. It uses no...

Hi guys - (have 2002, 172) I have fitted cams a while back and got modest gains. Now the thing is during tuning with Henk my car didn't really display a rapid voltage drop from the front OE narrow band 02 sensor indicating the car was not flowing a lot of extra air up top. Now with the OE box...

Thanks John. Food for thought. My knock signal 'looks' fine on the RSTuner but sometimes does a few odd 'gaining' up and down actions but could be normal. Henk seems to see nothing unusual. I'll keep an eye on things. 35 pound for a knock sensor :) I bet here in Aust they are 8 times the...

Hi Tom - here is the 1st pwr run when logging last weekend. Notice the ambient reading drops rapidly at WOT. Now the actual ambient would have been 1020 mb where I was. The MAP over the run lost 14 mb from start to end. All parameters look fine re advance etc doing around 28 deg at 6K > Kc kicks...

Now that's an interesting comment there John. My knock sensor has been doing some odd things of late. How did you know to target the sensor if you don't mind me asking?

@ Tom - I use the RSTuner PA feature. I am very careful how I use this. I have found it compares very well with RR's I have used withion about 1% error. Not bad! I'll check the closed throttle at high RPM later tonight. I generally see 14-18 mb pressure drop on MAP data from 2000-7000 RPM. At...

Going to leave the cams out of this discussion as I am trying to figure out what happened before fitting the cams. Otherwise it might descend into discussions about which cams are what / why etc. So you think compression test and also check out coil pack, plugs, leads. Car drives fine though...

Yep that would be the easiest way to look at things :-) Re deactivation of cam advance Henk simply said normally there is no need to deactivate..I added 'unusual' comment. Got to whach my quoting!

What about the cam dephaser solenoid? Do these ever cause issues? I have tested it via simple listening with the RSTuner however am not 100% that it is travelling full range and passing oil pressure. Henk said he had to 'deactivate' cam advance in the upper RPM to max power out of new cams which...

Yep timed up correctly. Nothing had changed between 110 kw and 100 kw (base run) prior to fitting cams except 24 months passed. I am using RSTuner PA. Testing done on same location essentially nearly the same weather conditions e.g 10 degs ambient, air pressure 1024 mb, no wind etc. Multiple...

Hello all - recently I added new cams to my May 02 build 172. Before fitting new cams I did base power runs and maxed out at 100 kw ATW & approx 160 Nm. Now here's the thing, 24 months prior I was consistently turning out 110 kw ATW and approx 180 Nm. So somewhere in those 24 months I dropped...

Did first data logs today and will send off later. AFR's are very rich currently into the low 12's and high 11's. I suspect Henk loaded me up with a safe base map to start from. I'll keep in touch.

OK sorted :-) Was a few lifters went south perhaps due to incorrect install method first time around. Refitted the originals following correct procedure and it's all good. I am one relieved guy. Many thanks to everyone here who helped me out. It's all about community and you all lived up to...

Yep tic tic tic..only when engine hot - when cold just the smallest discernable tic. No tac tac. I have realised my mech didn't tension down the cam cover in the correct sequence either. I had a very bad day.

Ha ha ha..very funny :-) Yes he does doesn't he. Yes perhaps you should? Join OZ Renault Sport website as a 'commercial' and away you go. Fee's are stuff all..just a few dollars from memory.

Mmm I like your advice :-) 166 pound is about $260 which is a nice price. Are you sure putting old ones back in won't be an issue if they go in differing locations to where they were located before?

I was advised to by cam supplier as egnine has done 100 tho kms. I just thought advice was correct. I still have old ones. Can I reuse? I suspect they need to go back in the same positions? I was quoted $1500 for 16 over er in South Aust!!! My lordy... Have been quoted 350 pound plus postage...

Turns out my lifters I purchased are non-genuine. Certainly after getting a small pipe into the oil filler and listening it sounds pretty horrible in there. Seeking professional help now locally for 2nd opinion although I have pretty well exhausted my local help option already! lol.

So do I! :-) Cheers. Will let you know how I go.