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Hi Nope I'm 28 so very late to start, it's fantastic fun though and very quick. Also I'm looking at doing rotax 177 at club level so a little more laid back.... hopefully Cheers Dave

They have leccy windows After test driving the cup and comparing it to the R27 it just feels cheaper. It's not the dash or the lack of gadgets just a feel, it's difficult to put my finger on it Maybe I should go and have a look at this on...

The discussion is continued in: http://www.cliosport.net/forum/showthread.php?642350-Looking-buy-my-first-197-Cup-or-R27&p=8705398#post8705398

Also how much do a set of recaros go for if I decide I need them?

My problem is, the R27 is around the £8500 mark with 32k miles from a dealer (who seemed rather cocky) and the cup is £6900 with 21k miles and a/c but with standard seats although it's the original owner from new. I was thinking that if I do take it on track I could put some proper buckets in...

Hi I'm looking to buy a 197 and am not sure what is the best to get I'm looking at a R27 f1 or a Cup I'm looking at a Cup without buckets but with air con, will I really miss the buckets? What should I look out for with the car? Should I just spend a little more and get an R27? is the 2007...

Hi Don't you find 6th gear a little tiring on a long drive?? Cheers Dave

Hi Everyone I'm new to Clio's and I'm looking to buy a 197 I have decided to downsize my collection of cars due to taking up karting, so need a daily driver that is fun to drive as well as being useable. I have been looking at a number of different cars and have stumbled across the 197's as...