1.6 / 1.6 rsi

[.:Deano:.]

Does anyone know the different specifications for the clio 1.6 and the clio 1.6 rsi if so could you post a link or maybe reply with the main specs thanks

 

[Maxx]

I believe the 1.6 8v has 90bhp and the 1.6 16v has 110 bhp if thats any help

 

[.:Deano:.]

Yea sorry i wasnt very clear. ive heard the 1.6 16v is 110bhp but i guess the 1.6 rsi is rarer and i cant find much info on it thanks for your help

 

[Millsy]

do a search theres loads of info on these two models, has been talked about only in the last 2 weeks

fyi, the rsi has leather bolstered seats, the 16v has velour, tbh thats it other than a couple of other minor bits

**waits for giles**

 

[al]

The RSi has cable throttle and the 1.6 16v (PH2) is fly by wire.

1.6 16v Has VVT from 02 onwards.

 

[Millsy]

the rsi and 16v mk2 ph1's have a cable throttle, the ph2's have fly by wire.
i didnt know bout the vvt.
what are the advantages to vvt?

 

[.:Deano:.]

i been told that the rsi is 115bhp and the 16v is 110bhp and apart from the half leather seats which i wil replace and throtle cable is that all the difference?

 

[Giles]

The Clio Si 1.6 8v 90bhp and Clio 16v 1.6 16v 110bhp was the early model mk2 ph1 in 1998-1999

In year 2000 - 2001 they change a bit of it, Clio Si 1.4 16v 98bhp and Clio RSi 1.6 16v 110bhp - with leather seats.

RSi are rare model for mk2 ph1 and only 1000 were made in UK.

Now could be a few RSi left.

 

[al]

the rsi and 16v mk2 ph1's have a cable throttle, the ph2's have fly by wire.
i didnt know bout the vvt.
what are the advantages to vvt?

It makes for interesting conversation, thats all i've discovered so far :S lol

 

[Giles]

^^ we have to see which is faster the ph1 or ph2

 

[.:Deano:.]

i currently have mk2 ph1 which i really like but lacks power. so going for 1.6 which i can work on. The 1.4 8v (approx70bhp) i got is a no go area as far as increasing power is concerned but i got bout 2k of mods on it so will swop alloys etc to new car and sell the 1.4 not far off double the power between the 2 lol. Will post photos when i get my new car after xmas

Thanks for all your help

 

[bmh.01]

Benefits to VVT, well without a power/torque curve from a non VVT 1.6 and a VVT 1.6 I couldn't say anything for definite but generally speaking.

It can give a flatter torque curve and possibly more torque down the bottom end, also it may produce more power earlier in the rev band but not change the peak figure. The 1.6 VVT engine in the megane is also 115bhp, without RR'ing the Clio (should be soon) again nothing definite but it could be that little bit more powerful.

One thing I have noticed it that theres no 16v 'kick' that you usually get around 3krpm on a 16v engine, every other one i've driven has done it bar the Clio. Its quite fun in my mums astra as the kick is quite pronounced. That may be acreditable to the VVT but having never driven a non VVT 1.6 I can't say as i've got nothing to compare with.

 

[Andy_J]

dont see many ph1 16v's on the streets either.. i have raced ph2's not much difference tbh.. i have only been beaten by rs clios EVER but not always! Non cup's cant handle the coilys! lol

 

[steviet]

1.6 's arent that quick, ive had one for just over a year now and im well bored!!! rsi is basically a trim level, using the same engine/ running gear and i think, suspension as all the other 1.6 16v (pre vvt) clios. mind you the seats are miles better than the ones a mate has in his 172 cup, the ABS is handy too. and apparently its not really worth bothering tuning the 1.6 motor, for the money youd spend on the car+mods, you could bag a cheap mk1 172.

 

[Dink]

Benefits to VVT, well without a power/torque curve from a non VVT 1.6 and a VVT 1.6 I couldn't say anything for definite but generally speaking.

It can give a flatter torque curve and possibly more torque down the bottom end, also it may produce more power earlier in the rev band but not change the peak figure. The 1.6 VVT engine in the megane is also 115bhp, without RR'ing the Clio (should be soon) again nothing definite but it could be that little bit more powerful.

One thing I have noticed it that theres no 16v 'kick' that you usually get around 3krpm on a 16v engine, every other one i've driven has done it bar the Clio. Its quite fun in my mums astra as the kick is quite pronounced. That may be acreditable to the VVT but having never driven a non VVT 1.6 I can't say as i've got nothing to compare with.

i get a definate change at 3750 rpm but i suppose mine aint exactly standard

 

[bmh.01]

I can't feel anything remotely in mine, just seems to make its merry way up the rev band smooth as anything. Nothing like the other similar capacity 16v things i've driven anyway.
What year is yours Dink ? Whats modded engine wise ?

 

[Dink]

it's a 52 plate so late 2002

the only mods really are a bmc cda IK and a 100 cpsi sports can and s/s cat back

 

[bmh.01]

VVT engine was Nov 02 onwards so would be interesting to see whether its the VVT engine or not. Though mind you the bmc, cat and exhaust may free things up and release the kick. Much like the 1*2 owners who have lost the 5k kick through wrong diameter exhausts etc ?

 

[Dink]

i had it delivered on 20 oct 2002 so not a vvt engine

it has been ragged to f**k so that might of helped too lol

 

[edde]

VVt on the 1.6 was supposed to give 5hp on the other 1.6 versions in other cars but the Clio one didn't offical gain anything.

No huge gain from VVT though give the power a bit more speard out but mainly IMO its for emmisions.

 

[Millsy]

dont see many ph1 16v's on the streets either.. i have raced ph2's not much difference tbh.. i have only been beaten by rs clios EVER but not always! Non cup's cant handle the coilys! lol

i find it quite difficult to keep up with my mates vts but that is because they are lighter and more bhp i think?

wouldnt even think of racing an RS lol i know the outcome.

what has anyone else raced and beaten in 1600's.

i beat a 2.0 bmw coupe once off the lights and through some twisty bits, he just couldnt keep up and stay on the power like i could (because of RWD i guess), be quite interesting to see what other cars the 1600 is likened to.

 

[TomTom]

^^About the same made I'd say in a line, they're probably better round roundabouts and that.

 

[Dink]

i've beaten a 54 plate modeo titanium x tdci up a hill doing about a ton

beat my mate in an audi a6/8 1.8t

and most other 1.6's apart from the vts/gti's

 

[al]

dont see many ph1 16v's on the streets either.. i have raced ph2's not much difference tbh.. i have only been beaten by rs clios EVER but not always! Non cup's cant handle the coilys! lol

i find it quite difficult to keep up with my mates vts but that is because they are lighter and more bhp i think?

wouldnt even think of racing an RS lol i know the outcome.

what has anyone else raced and beaten in 1600's.

i beat a 2.0 bmw coupe once off the lights and through some twisty bits, he just couldnt keep up and stay on the power like i could (because of RWD i guess), be quite interesting to see what other cars the 1600 is likened to.

Trounced a diesel 3 series beemer (about 53 reg not sure of engine but it WAS diesel and it was being flogged)

Had a 180bhp Fabia VRS in the twistys on Sunday :approve:

I just like the sleeper effect of the 1.6's, everyone seems to think cos they look standard that it must be a 1.2

 

[TomTom]

^Al whens your next meet, wouldn't mind seeing how the DCI does against a few better driven 1.6's. Only pansies drive them round here can't compare it properly.

*Flame suit* I usually pull away from any saxo vts/vtr easy. 2nd gear out of roundabouts, soon as the turbos in no trouble. Doing 80 in the fast lane of the private runway, vts shoots up behind, I plant it to get past a sprinter van, pull in about 90, keep booting it and he couldnt get past me, up until 120. Didn't go any furthur with slicks on the front. :quiet: AND I had a gti gearbox in the boot. Don't rate them to be honest.

 

[Millsy]

i find it quite difficult to keep up with my mates vts but that is because they are lighter and more bhp i think?

wouldnt even think of racing an RS lol i know the outcome.

what has anyone else raced and beaten in 1600's.

i beat a 2.0 bmw coupe once off the lights and through some twisty bits, he just couldnt keep up and stay on the power like i could (because of RWD i guess), be quite interesting to see what other cars the 1600 is likened to.

Trounced a diesel 3 series beemer (about 53 reg not sure of engine but it WAS diesel and it was being flogged)

Had a 180bhp Fabia VRS in the twistys on Sunday :approve:

I just like the sleeper effect of the 1.6's, everyone seems to think cos they look standard that it must be a 1.2

lol thats very true, went to basildon the other night with a friend, he has a 1.2 turbo punto, a guy he knows was looking under his bonnet, i remarked there was no point looking as there's nothing to see.
he said to my mate yours faster than his?
i said he wishes lol.
then he asked my mate what mine was and he said a 1.6 he was like whhhaaattt!
lol its so true bout the 1.2 approach, anyone who's in the know knows what it is with the wheels and 16v badges, once i get 1.2 badges and some euro rims no ones gonna have a clue *cue evil laugh* mmwaahhhaaahaaa haaaaaaa :evil:

 

[Saner]

Where did you gat your production values from Giles?

 

[Steve]

I have a loner form Renault at present, 1.6 sport on an 04.

It's really quite quick & the brakes almost stand it on it's nose.

 

[Giles]

Where did you gat your production values from Giles?

I got all clio brochure

 

[.:Deano:.]

The 1,6 in general looks pretty rare can only find bout 4 rsi's online aswell, but as youve all told me theres no performance differences between 1.6 and 1.6rsi. So wont waste time searching for rsi got bout 4months to buy one so will find a gooden.

To you 1.6 owners what good mods you guys got??

Thanks

 

[Giles]

^^ try find RSi with come alloy bonnet cos it nice & light

 

[Saner]

ooohh.. Could you tell me how many 1.4 Si's there were then? and how many were vertigo green?

 

[.:Deano:.]

^^ try find RSi with come alloy bonnet cos it nice & light

Well looking to replace alloys interior etc so not really worth it.. will get one if theres one up for sale seen 2 here http://froogle.google.co.uk/froogle?q=1.6+clio+rsi&hl=en&lr=&sa=X&oi=froogle&ct=title

 

[.:Deano:.]

ooohh.. Could you tell me how many 1.4 Si's there were then? and how many were vertigo green?

http://www.desperateseller.co.uk/Co...egYear=2001&Mileage=0&Price=3695&showheader=1
lol its in green xD. No im to dumb to find that all out lol

 

[Giles]

^^ Have you looks that car??

ooohh.. Could you tell me how many 1.4 Si's there were then? and how many were vertigo green?

8v or 16v?

 

[Andy_J]

I'll sell you mine, black 16v on FK coilovers.

 

[.:Deano:.]

^^ Have you looks that car??

Nope just looking for prices will start gettin serious in january can start work then but get years no claims in march so can get it on the road round then

 

[Saner]

^^ Have you looks that car??

ooohh.. Could you tell me how many 1.4 Si's there were then? and how many were vertigo green?

8v or 16v?

8v was the S
16v was the Si

so 16v Si pleeease!

 

[Giles]

^^ nope they did made Si 1.6 8v in 98-99

Don't know how many green were made but Si 1.4 16v only made 800 in the UK. Renault run out of time to make more cos the clio ph2 came along end in 2001.

 

[Saner]

Thank you very very much, i have always wondered!

I know they made 1.6 8v Si's,

but they never nade 1.4 8v Si's.. thats what i meant