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2.0 Conversion
- Thread starter Stu_c
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Depends what engine etc your using I'd go for a Mk1 172 personaly as its a more responsive engine with its cable throttle the Mk2 is still very good though.
I hope you've a fair bit of techincal experiance or willingingness though as it not a simple transplant take a some time you have to change all the looms under the dash. I'd recomend removing the subframe undoing the engine and lowing it to the gorund and lifting the car up over the engine and replace the 172 same way.
You need a fair few bits driveshafts engine gearbox suspension brakes etc.
I hope you've a fair bit of techincal experiance or willingingness though as it not a simple transplant take a some time you have to change all the looms under the dash. I'd recomend removing the subframe undoing the engine and lowing it to the gorund and lifting the car up over the engine and replace the 172 same way.
You need a fair few bits driveshafts engine gearbox suspension brakes etc.
I would recommend you get an insurance quote before you start.
If you are buying the engine etc from a breakers do a deal on your old kit
Edde is right in saying fit the MK1 parts but they are harder to get hold of and most are high milers. if you go for the mk2 172/182 route you will need to change the dash to the newer one as the internal wiring loom is different between the 2 phases.
due to the multiplexed wiring you may have problems with getting the speedo abs and power steering to work.
if your going to fcs come and have a look at my car for ideas.
last question you have to ask yourself is are you going to sell it anytime soon your market for selling it will be limited and you wont get back the money and time you put into it .
If you are buying the engine etc from a breakers do a deal on your old kit
Edde is right in saying fit the MK1 parts but they are harder to get hold of and most are high milers. if you go for the mk2 172/182 route you will need to change the dash to the newer one as the internal wiring loom is different between the 2 phases.
due to the multiplexed wiring you may have problems with getting the speedo abs and power steering to work.
if your going to fcs come and have a look at my car for ideas.
last question you have to ask yourself is are you going to sell it anytime soon your market for selling it will be limited and you wont get back the money and time you put into it .
The diffrence is unreal, ive just done a 2.0 nova from a 1.2. It went from 55bhp to 143bhp. Insurance quotes are a must. You also need to spend a lot on brakes and suspension, which may put it over your budget. There are also hidden costs that everyone forgets, such as oils, powersteering fluids, etc etc
Not trying to put you off but there is a lot to think about before you rush into it.
Not trying to put you off but there is a lot to think about before you rush into it.
cock mobile.
Stu, I know you love your car, and have done quite a few things to it; but honesty, it will be far cheaper and easier to sell it and buy a 172.
You can get mk1 172s for under 4k these days.
As people have said, insurance would be a nightmare, would be far easier to insure a real 172.
Selling the car would also be very problematic and you wouldn't get hardly anything for it.
You'll have to re-register all the stuff through the DVLA, the V5 info, etc.
The car also wouldn't have the right suspension, brakes, bodykit, as well as the seats, etc.
You'd also be without the car for a few weeks while it was done.
You can get mk1 172s for under 4k these days.
As people have said, insurance would be a nightmare, would be far easier to insure a real 172.
Selling the car would also be very problematic and you wouldn't get hardly anything for it.
You'll have to re-register all the stuff through the DVLA, the V5 info, etc.
The car also wouldn't have the right suspension, brakes, bodykit, as well as the seats, etc.
You'd also be without the car for a few weeks while it was done.
There something fun about keeping your car and modifying its not costs effective thouhg.
I need to blow my engine up to do this conversion though I think even then I'd probably get Renault to stick another replacment one in.
ANother thing to think about is when you do the swop you should have it checked by the DVLA lot and you can take the plate from the doner car as a proper swop ie engine box suspension stearing is enough points for you claim that you have fixed the old car rarther than fitted the engine to your car. So in theory you could attend a Renaulsport track day as you'd have a car built by Renault sport.
I need to blow my engine up to do this conversion though I think even then I'd probably get Renault to stick another replacment one in.
ANother thing to think about is when you do the swop you should have it checked by the DVLA lot and you can take the plate from the doner car as a proper swop ie engine box suspension stearing is enough points for you claim that you have fixed the old car rarther than fitted the engine to your car. So in theory you could attend a Renaulsport track day as you'd have a car built by Renault sport.
All you do is update the engine size with the dvla to 1998cc and the co2 emissions of the car it came from. mine is a renault extreme 16v engine size 1998cc .
Insurance isnt too bad £558 trade insurance
if your car means too much to you the swap it , mine means a lot to me, i love it more than my bird
Insurance isnt too bad £558 trade insurance
if your car means too much to you the swap it , mine means a lot to me, i love it more than my bird
GOLF GT TDI
i spoke to Ktec racing they are wiling to do the transplant, i will then take it to BB performance they are going to strap a Supercharger plus other little bits to it, they said they will be able to get just over 400Bhp, but in a front wheel drive car surly thats Suicide ? :evil:
S2000
I think you're living in a fantasy world. Just buy a car with a bigger engine.Stu_c said:
i looved into this when i was getting my clio, its really not worth it trust me the lesser engined cars are not set up to handle bigger engines, you need to replace pretty much everything.
breaks, drive shafts , im unsure if the engine mounts are the same, exhause system etc etc
breaks, drive shafts , im unsure if the engine mounts are the same, exhause system etc etc
Tweaked Leon Cupra R
u have to take the brakes off to take the drivesafts out, you have to take the drivesafts out to get the gearbox out, you have to take the gearbox out to get the engine out. and then the 3rd n final mount comes off wi 4 bolts!! lol
I'm thinking about this very soon too, only bit i wont understand is the wiring! :?
I'm thinking about this very soon too, only bit i wont understand is the wiring! :?
Don't need to take brake off to get driveshafts out but its easy plus 1.2 brakes won't bolt to 172 hubs and you need 172 hubs to get the 172 shafts to fit. You need the 172 shafst as 1.2 ones won't fit easily the JC5 (172/182) box.Andy_J said:
Best way IMO is to drop the subframe, rad etc and suspension and lift the car over it all.
There 4 bolts for the drivers side mount (or so depnds how you get the engine out) then one or two for the dogbone (dpending how you remove it) and 3 or 6 holding the gearbox side in (depending again how you remove it)
Wiring etc is the probelm the swop itself is quite quick just swop all the looms and dashboard from the doner car.
