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20vT- Everything U know



  ValverInBits
I'm having trouble selling my MK1, and im looking at my finances and other possibilities.....

I'm thinking of a Volkswagen Group 1.8 20v Turbo into my MK1. Originally fitted to Leon Cupras, Audi TTs, A4s and many others.

I know that 20vs are awesome. iirc they can take nearly 300bhp on the standard internals.
I want to know everything there is to know about these engines.

Firstly - Do all turbo versions have the same internals?

What turbos bolt on, and how much boost/power am i likely to see from these?
How much for an engine?
I know that i'll need standalone management. Considering Emerald, why do so many people slate megasquirt?
Any good websites where i can source info about the 20v?

Thanks in advance.
 
  LY 182
dta will sell you a ecu with a complete tailord loom for a good price.
best bloke to speak to is matt black, quick chat with him should sort you with most of the knowledge you need to make a decision
 
  ValverInBits
DTA look good i have to say. MattBlack Built the not normal developments 20v Mk2ph2 didnt he?
Might try getting in touch.
anyone else?
 
yeah matt black did orginally build my car, ive just taken the spec further:)

there a very few diferances in the range of 1.8t engine mate put the dirences are as follows

the 150 engines use the k03 turbo
the 180 engines use the k03s turbo, compresser is 5mm bigger larger valve ports and different map
the 210-225 uses the k04 turbo, both wheels 5mm larger than the k03, larger injectors 310 compared to 280cc (280 in the 180 from what ive found out not sure about the 150), different intake maifold MAF sensor and i think its the same head used on the 180.


comp ratios are as follows

9.5:1--- 150 hp version
9.3:1--- 170 hp version
9.1:1--- 225hp version

matt
 
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  ValverInBits
ledgend that really helps. Thanks mate. I need to get costing this up.
What did you do for engine mounts?
I saw a 20v for sale on ebay a while ago that had clio mounts already on it. They looked like "off the Shelf" mounts to me. Does anyone actually make them or is it a custom Fabrication job?
 
ledgend that really helps. Thanks mate. I need to get costing this up.
What did you do for engine mounts?
I saw a 20v for sale on ebay a while ago that had clio mounts already on it. They looked like "off the Shelf" mounts to me. Does anyone actually make them or is it a custom Fabrication job?


mine uses the audi/vw mounts mate botled onto custom chassis work, then shimmed up 5mm so the drve shafts clear the subframe:)

personally id always go for the dub mounts as there a hell of a lot stronger imho
 
  ValverInBits
Ok mate, thats good to know.

What "not normal ;)" management are you running and would you reccommend it? Last question I promise :)
 
Ok mate, thats good to know.

What "not normal ;)" management are you running and would you reccommend it? Last question I promise :)

its the DTA e48 'pro' standalone system, more functions than youll ever need to no!!! lol


the only down fall is it not very user freindly according to my mapper!! when your live mapping you and only have one map face open at a time witch is annoying when you want to make minor changes to the map settings!!

other than that bud, ace and would recommed:)
 
  53 Clio's & counting
if you need any costs or other info mate pm me,as i work for vw so i can price up anything ya need
 
if you need any costs or other info mate pm me,as i work for vw so i can price up anything ya need


do you get discount pal?? as 22 quid for a AUX belt is silly!! exactly the same item at gsf was 7 quid........bit of a differance there lad!!
 
Some more apparent differences:
  • Big Port head vs Small Port Head:
    • Intake ports - 54x26mm vs 43x26mm
    • Exhaust Ports - 36mm vs 33mm
  • Engine codes AWD/AMU/AEB use 20mm wrist-pins vs the later 19mm
  • 3pin vs 4pin coil packs. The earlier blocks used 3pin coil packs that also bolted to the valve cover unlike the later 4pin coils which just pushed into the head (and also at times will pop out). For use with standalone you'll typically want 3 pin coil packs as coil drivers can not always drive the 4pin setup.
  • The NB has smaller injectors, smaller turbo, smaller intercooler and smaller exhaust than that of the Golf/Jetta (across all years) so while you might easily find a NB 1.8T its not going to be as powerful without further modification.
  • The AEB engine found in the longitudinal Audi A4/VW Passat from 1997-1999 is the external water pump like that found on all previous 4cyl engines from VW. The later post 2000 engines all have an internal water pump which is driven off the timing belt rather than an intermediate shaft.
  • Addition of VVT for emissions after 2001, and vacuum hose routing changes which don't really have an impact on how the motor runs. The intake cam on non-VVT engines is different than that of VVT engines.
here is all the differant ratios/routes you can go mate, happy planning
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2]Code[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2]Engine CR[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2]Wrist Pin[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2]Turbo[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2]Injector Size*[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2]VVT[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2]Volkswagen[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2]2000 Golf/Jetta[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2]AWD[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2]9.5:1[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2]20mm[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2]K03[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2]317cc/369cc[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2]No[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2]2001 Golf/Jetta[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2]AWW[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2]9.3:1[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2]19mm[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2]K03sport[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2]317cc/369cc[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2]Yes[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2]2002+ Golf/Jetta[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2]AWP[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2]9.5:1[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2]19mm[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2]K03sport[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2] [/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2]Yes[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2]1997-1999 Passat[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2]AEB[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2]9.5:1[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2]20mm[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2]K03[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2] [/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2]No[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2]1999-2001 Passat [/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2]ATW[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2]9.5:1[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2] [/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2]K03[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2] [/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2]No[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2]2001 Passat [/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2]AWM[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2]9.3:1[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2] [/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2]K03[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2] [/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2]Yes[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2]2002-2004 Passat [/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2]AMB[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2] [/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2] [/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2] [/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2] [/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2] [/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2]1999-2000 Beetle[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2]APH[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2]9.5:1[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2]20mm[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2]K03[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2]282cc/325cc[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2]No[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2]2001+ Beetle[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2]AWV[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2]9.5:1[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2]20mm[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2]K03[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2]282cc/325cc[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2]No[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2]2002 Beetle Turbo S[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2]AWP[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2]9.5:1[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2]19mm[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2]K03sport[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2] [/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2]Yes[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2]Audi[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2]1997-1999 A4[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2]AEB[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2]9.5:1[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2]20mm[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2]K03[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2] [/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2]No[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2]2000 A4 [/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2]ATW[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2] [/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2] [/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2] [/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2] [/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2] [/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2]2001 A4 [/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2]AWM[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2] [/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2] [/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2] [/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2] [/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2] [/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2]2002 A4 [/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2]AMB[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2] [/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2] [/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2] [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2] [/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2]2000-2001 TT 180hp[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2]ATC[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2] [/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2]20mm[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2]K03[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2]317cc/369cc[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2]No[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2]2001-2004 TT 180hp[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2]AWP[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2]9.5:1[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2]19mm[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2]K03sport[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2] [/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2]Yes[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2]2001-2002 TT 225hp [/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2]AMU[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2] [/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2]20mm[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2]K04[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2] [/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2]No[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2]2003-2004 TT 225hp [/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2]BEA[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2] [/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2] [/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2] [/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2] [/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2] [/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2]Unknown[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2]?[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2]AUG[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2]9.5:1[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2] [/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2]K03[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2] [/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2]No[/SIZE][/FONT][SIZE=-6]*Injector flow: cc/min@3bar / cc/min@4bar[/SIZE][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-1]Universal Engine Info[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2]Type:[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2]Four cylinder inline, turbo charged, charge air intercooling[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2]Bore:[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2]3.18 in. (81 mm)[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2]Stroke:[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2]3.40 in. (86.4 mm)[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2]Displacement:[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2]1.8 liters - 107 cu. in.[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2]Cylinder block:[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2]Cast Iron[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2]Crankshaft:[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2]Forged Steel, 4 main bearings[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2]Cylinder head:[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2]Aluminum alloy[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2]Valve Train:[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2]DOHC, belt driven, hydraulic lifters[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2]Firing Order:[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2]1-3-4-2 (Cylinder 1 is by the timing belt) [/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2]Cooling System:[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2]Water-cooled, thermostatically controlled radiator fan[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2]Fuel/Ignition System:[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2]Electronic multi-point sequential fuel injection, hot film air mass sensor, solid state direct ignition with multiple coils, dual knock sensors w/cylinder selective knock control and fully adaptive controls.[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2]Emission System:[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2]Dual 3-way catalytic converters w/individual oxygen sensors[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-1]Volkswagen Engine Info[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2]Model Years:[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2]2000[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2]2001[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2]2002+[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2]Compression Ratio:[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2]9.5:1[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2]9.3:1[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2]9.5:1[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2]Horsepower (SAE Net):[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2]150hp @ 5700RPM[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2]150hp @ 5700RPM[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2]180hp @ 5500RPM[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2]Torque:[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2]155ft. lbs.@ 1750RPM[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2]162ft. lbs.@ 1950RPM[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2]174ft. lbs.@ 1950RPM[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-1]Audi Engine Info[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2]Model Years:[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2]1997-2000[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2]2001-2005[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2]Compression Ratio:[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2]9.5:1[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2]9.3:1[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2]Horsepower (SAE Net):[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2]150 @ 5700 RPM[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2]170 @ 5900 RPM[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2]Torque:[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2]155 ft. lbs.@ 1750 RPM[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-2]166 ft. lbs. @ 1950-5000 RPM[/SIZE][/FONT]
 
self learn once its mapped mate!!! its not gonna self learn from a basic start map!!

you only have to get it somthing like then it will fine tune itself off the wideband etc

no dude, you use the wideband reading to addjust the map accordingly hence is not running lean or rich in that matter, no ecu thats out on the market will learn its self off the wideband or from a base map on that matter!:nono:
 


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