5gtt into a clio?

[MOFO]

havedecided to go for a 5gtt engine into my clio, what sort of hp can they get, also dont want to tune it to maximum and boots right up coz thats when you start getting problems,

what costs am i looking at to fit on complete, will try and get one for about £2kish, whatr price are they for a good one? body work dont matter coz it will be scrapped,

anyhelp welcome

cheers

ronny

 

[MOFO]

http://www.renault5alive.co.uk/

what do you all think of these lot, seem to be cosher,

 

[edde]

Tunning to get reliability isn't cheap 120hp stock I think 200hp and you want to realy spend some money and get it relaible.
172 engine is cheaper and more reliable and newer and better for tunnine for reliability.

 

[MOFO]

yea but every ones got a 172, how much would i be looking at to get a reliable 160ish hp lump???? Would just be somthing different,

 

[Martin]

I'd say don't bother....

 

[Neil G]

I'd say don't bother....

I'd second that

Why not go for the VAG engine like Matt Black did...more power and certainly more reliable

 

[MOFO]

I'd say don't bother....

I'd second that

Why not go for the VAG engine like Matt Black did...more power and certainly more reliable

and alot more money lol, :dapprove: :rasp:

 

[marcus cliogtt]

Its a good engine, but I can see what others are saying about going for the 172 lump.

If you are serious about doing it, then the guys at Nocturnal Developments would be a good starting point for discussions regarding the conversion, they have finished off the exact conversion you want for a customer recently.

But I know they are now using the 1.7 volvo turbo lump as a base for many cars, because they are getting good results going down that avenue.

 

[Turkish]

I'd bet my left nut that MOFO wont ever get round to any of the engine conversions he's asked about.

 

[MOFO]

I'd bet my left nut that MOFO wont ever get round to any of the engine conversions he's asked about.

well ill look forward to recieving that, its set in stone my man, in time for summer 07 there will be a new lump in my clio,

 

[Dubai182]

hahahahaahahahahahahahahahaha

You want less power simply because 'everyone' puts in a 172 engine in?? Oh my god.

 

[MOFO]

how much would you need to spend to get a 172 to 200+hp and how much would you need to spend to get a gtt to 200+hp,

also they are much more fun and unique, when you lift your bonnet and see a 172 enigine its ' ok a 172 not bad,' but if tou sore a gtt lump all nice and shiney, neat turbo sitting there then i know what id rather have, imo

 

[Clio R]

putting an old enige in a newish car wud worry me. and will be hard to find nice r5 enige as most will have been raged to hell. why not look around for 172 enige or sumting least there new and are quik enuff standard and will be hell lot more reilable than R5.

 

[Martin]

You know how reliable 200+ hp 5 gtts are right?? lol

I'm with Loony....I think there is no chance of you actually following up any of your threads...

 

[Turkish]

As for the use of the word "neat" when descibing a GT turbo engine, they're a right f**king mess of hoses and boost pipes!

Dont get me wrong I love Gt turbo's and mine was reliable, but I'd not put that old 1.4 carb'd lump into a newer car. 172 wont need you pissing about with choke on cold mornings, will do a reasonable mpg on a good run and happily do 130 all day long if you ever wanted it to, you cant say that for a Gt turbo lump. Not to mention the fact it'll be giving you 170 bhp without any mods or being under any strain.

 

[rob192]

Think you also lose power steering when fitting a GTT engine don't you? There's been a mk2 ph1 with a GTT engine for sale that's been doing the rounds for months and months now.

 

[MOFO]

:rasp:

You know how reliable 200+ hp 5 gtts are right?? lol

I'm with Loony....I think there is no chance of you actually following up any of your threads...

lol, i know i do come up with some shizzel but i really didnt know what to do, this is what i will do in the future and i want it to be ready for summer, once xmas is out the way i can get my head down and crack on with it, and i can gaurantee it will be done 100% ~( unless the car gets nicked or somthing:S )

i dont blame you for doubting me boys but just wait and see lol :rasp:

 

[MOFO]

As for the use of the word "neat" when descibing a GT turbo engine, they're a right f**king mess of hoses and boost pipes!

i was going to say shiney lol :S i didnt know what to say but had to reply with somthing

 

[dangerous dave]

Think you also lose power steering when fitting a GTT engine don't you? There's been a mk2 ph1 with a GTT engine for sale that's been doing the rounds for months and months now.

fit an electric pump, sorted..

 

[dangerous dave]

As for the use of the word "neat" when descibing a GT turbo engine, they're a right f**king mess of hoses and boost pipes!
quote]

relocate the header tank, put a front mount on, catch tank, cup mod = less mess...

172 will be more reliable and less hassle but the gtt lump will be more fun and the engine itself it alot lighter im sure.. 170-180 bhp will be more than enough if the clio it goes into is light enough as the 5 engine kicks out a nice amount of torque...

with the 172 conversion you'll close the bonnet on day one and never open it again.. with the 5 you wont be able to help yourself f**king about with it and thats where it will f*k up.

 

[MOFO]

As for the use of the word "neat" when descibing a GT turbo engine, they're a right f**king mess of hoses and boost pipes!
quote]

relocate the header tank, put a front mount on, catch tank, cup mod = less mess...

172 will be more reliable and less hassle but the gtt lump will be more fun and the engine itself it alot lighter im sure.. 170-180 bhp will be more than enough if the clio it goes into is light enough as the 5 engine kicks out a nice amount of torque...

with the 172 conversion you'll close the bonnet on day one and never open it again.. with the 5 you wont be able to help yourself f**king about with it and thats where it will f*k up.

i like you my man, lol, were you based and do you fit engines

 

[Turkish]

relocate the header tank, put a front mount on, catch tank, cup mod = less mess...

172 will be more reliable and less hassle but the gtt lump will be more fun and the engine itself it alot lighter im sure.. 170-180 bhp will be more than enough if the clio it goes into is light enough as the 5 engine kicks out a nice amount of torque...

with the 172 conversion you'll close the bonnet on day one and never open it again.. with the 5 you wont be able to help yourself f**king about with it and thats where it will f*k up.

Now tell him how easy the wiring/dials will be

 

[dangerous dave]

You know how reliable 200+ hp 5 gtts are right?? lol

there aren't really that many non bull shiiiite 200bhp gtt's out there and they blow up whatever the power.. if there not "set up" and left alone, they will be in trouble in no time..

i've done near 20k in my current 5 and had no probelms bar a sh1tty carb, failed starter, windscreen motor, hardly unreliable... the alternators on its way out but thats a componant not the engine itself..

 

[Neil G]

I'd second that

Why not go for the VAG engine like Matt Black did...more power and certainly more reliable

and alot more money lol, :dapprove: :rasp:

Cost you less money in the long run than the R5 which will break down every five minutes and melt pistons when you wind the boost up to get to 200bhp.

If teh VAG is too expensive just go for the 172 for the reasons above

 

[dangerous dave]

[/quote]

Now tell him how easy the wiring/dials will be [/quote]

get a guy how knows his wiring to do it.. i rember a guy who had his newer shape clio with a gtt lump and that wasn't wired up for over a year.. not sure if its easy or not, but im sure a clever bloke will crack it.. i'd bin all the gauges and get new ones anyway, its just the rev, speedo, and milage you need working.. the rest will be childs play:quiet: not that i could do it

 

[dangerous dave]

i like you my man, lol, were you based and do you fit engines

reading and nope, i've got a clio 16v/gtt sat on the drive that i've not finished yet as i need to sort the gauges and intercooler as i binned the set up after the mot.. im with Marcus and say to take a trip to Nocturnal or someone that knows there stuff.. its easy to do but there are a few things that need done propperly and they would make it look easy and get it done right first time..

i like the gtt lump in the older clios as its the 5 shells that suffer more than the engine.. if your clio shells to heavy you'll need more pwer to make up for it. if you were gonna bother with the 172 i'd say get a 172 and be done with it..

the lads on the RTOC are dropping 172/182 and turbo clio 16v/willy lumps in 5's while some of us are dropping the 5 lumps in the newer clios.. (just because we can)

near all engine are turbo's tho as they love the kick

 

[john182rs]

for the money it would cost you why dont you sell your car an go get a cheapish 172 with 60+k miles on it an the money you would say ramm it with lots of performance engine parts then slamm it and do the brakes then hey presto youll have a f**king fast car...

 

[edde]

Think you also lose power steering when fitting a GTT engine don't you? There's been a mk2 ph1 with a GTT engine for sale that's been doing the rounds for months and months now.

Just use the electric stearing rack as the Mk2 none Rs and the Mk2 phase 1 diesel do.

 

[demon_dald]

Its a good engine, but I can see what others are saying about going for the 172 lump.

If you are serious about doing it, then the guys at Nocturnal Developments would be a good starting point for discussions regarding the conversion, they have finished off the exact conversion you want for a customer recently.

But I know they are now using the 1.7 volvo turbo lump as a base for many cars, because they are getting good results going down that avenue.

have considered the 1.7t for mine, but isnt it less than 135bhp standard?!

 

[S22 JGS]

Ronnie - speak to chris at the next meet (kris172).... he has his 5 that he is working on.

 

[Neil G]

You can put the 1.7 bottom end on the 5GTT engine which gives a reliable 200bhp.

You'll need a different gearbox than the 5 though

 

[marcus cliogtt]

You can put the 1.7 bottom end on the 5GTT engine which gives a reliable 200bhp.

You'll need a different gearbox than the 5 though

Eh?!

The 1.7 bottom end I believe was in both the volvo's and the 1.7 5's not 100% on that, but the 1.4 head doesn't fit on the 1.7 bottom end if thats what your suggesting.

1.7 turbos are about 135bhp standard, but I know Haz at nocturnal developments has had well over 200bhp out of his with minor modifications.