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anyone build a "RS2 style" inlet??



  clio 172
Reason Im asking is that Ive just came across this thing on ebay:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/nissan-sr20...es&hash=item3f2dd34025&vxp=mtr#ht_1143wt_1179

I know it's for the SR20 engine, but if you look closely they are selling what is basically a rs2 inlet (except this is all aluminium) for 330 USD (roughly 220 quid). So, has anyone built a DYI rs2 inlet? HAs anyone reverse engineered one? I mean, if someone could sell an aluminium version of teh rs2 for let's say 500 quid it would sell fast I'm guessing?

So, anyone done something like this?
 
  330i. E30 Touring.
It's definitely worth trying, but whether the gains would be the same or not, I don't know.

I know the RS2 shape is optimum for the space available.
 

Ph1 Tom

ClioSport Club Member
@mee kracing did one himself. Sure he was selling it though
Meek_racing did make one, I was going to do something similar but I've gone all out for ITBs instead.

He got some good results, similar or better than RS2 figures. But the inlet runner length was longer than a RS2 or RS2 extra with the 50mm spacers.
 

Don

  182 & LY Clio 220 ed
Meek_racing did make one, I was going to do something similar but I've gone all out for ITBs instead.

He got some good results, similar or better than RS2 figures. But the inlet runner length was longer than a RS2 or RS2 extra with the 50mm spacers.

Cheers Tom. Brain cell here forgot his username! Pmsl
 
I was going to make a few but it's hard to make them to peoples budgets.

Im in still going to look into them
 
  RB 182
Yeah was me who had one made. It exchanged hands twice, would be interested to see if this has been installed and mapped. I think people buy these things and then sit on them unfortunately, then flog them on a few months later. If you are good with GRP, a custom airbox would make this thing work and look better. I was limited with what materials were being used and a minimal budget.

http://www.cliosport.net/forum/showthread.php?687969-Custom-Inlet-(JMS-Style)
 

Danith

ClioSport Club Member
  GTi 7.5 pp/Mx5 nd2
£500 isn't that bad if the inlet is proven. ARC intakes and Gruppe M's can go for around that on Ep3 Civics!
 
  172 Cup Jenvey'd
I can get them made.. Weve made a few inlets, including a few Renault 5 maxi ones.

Here is a Clio turbo manifold.

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  Mk2 172 Cup
I think the term used is 'Inlet Plenum', surely they wouldn't be too hard to fabricate if you where handy with a welder, but I think there would be some math in it with the size of it


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realnumber 1

ClioSport Club Member
If these could be made for £500 or less and give similar results to the rs2 I'd snap one up.

Couldn't care less how it looks under the bonnet as such. Certainly not at half the price...
 
  clio 172
Yeah was me who had one made. It exchanged hands twice, would be interested to see if this has been installed and mapped. I think people buy these things and then sit on them unfortunately, then flog them on a few months later. If you are good with GRP, a custom airbox would make this thing work and look better. I was limited with what materials were being used and a minimal budget.

http://www.cliosport.net/forum/showthread.php?687969-Custom-Inlet-(JMS-Style)


Cant acces the link! can you get a pic up? what runner lenght did you use, and what were the gains?
 

aucky

ClioSport Club Member
ScottRallye will the boxy shape of the chamber hinder the laminar flow characteristics of NA induction? (I can't find the original cylinder by cylinder flow diagrams from the RS2)
 
  172 Cup Jenvey'd
@ScottRallye will the boxy shape of the chamber hinder the laminar flow characteristics of NA induction? (I can't find the original cylinder by cylinder flow diagrams from the RS2)

The design of the one we done was a copy of the customers steel one that he wanted made in aluminium so not to our design as i agree i wouldnt want it that "boxy"
Just showing that we can fabricate one. Il get a price.
 
  182/RS2/ Turbo/Mk1
Long post ahead as this is a bit of a favourite subject of mine, Ive been making different inlet manifolds for a long time now.



Reason Im asking is that Ive just came across this thing on ebay:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/nissan-sr20...es&hash=item3f2dd34025&vxp=mtr#ht_1143wt_1179

I know it's for the SR20 engine, but if you look closely they are selling what is basically a rs2 inlet (except this is all aluminium) for 330 USD (roughly 220 quid). So, has anyone built a DYI rs2 inlet? HAs anyone reverse engineered one? I mean, if someone could sell an aluminium version of teh rs2 for let's say 500 quid it would sell fast I'm guessing?

So, anyone done something like this?



You can buy just the plenum bit from those inlets, a guy in the Vauxhall ten of the best team who's car I map makes them for vauxhall engines, I am sure I could get him to knock one up for a renault, but the problem that you will have is the base manifold, you are going to need a throttle body base manifold realistically as the standard one doesnt lend itself to this sort of adaption like the one on the vauxhalls does.

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This is from another car I mapped with one one:
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I did a slightly different take on my old 600bhp nova engine, using the plenum from an RS200 Group B rally car and a Jenvey throttle body base manifold:


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In place:
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Also I made myself one a few years ago as well for my williams engine using a chadil ITB manifold that a few people on here with have seen, its quite funny how similar it is to the JMS RS2 we have on our 182, considering at the time I made I had never seen an RS2


This is it with the plenum cover off so you can see inside it:


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Complete with plenum cover on and going into its new home:
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To do it PROPERLY like the RS2 is then the minimum things you are going to need are:

A throttle body inlet manifold to get the correct fitment to the head and a smooth transition from round to oval to suit the ports
(you can knock up a flange and crush some ally pipes to suit, but dont expect the same results)

Injector bosses placed into the inlet at an appropriate distance and angle

Individual trumpets, in either ally or carbon etc
(you can just miss them out and from the outside it looks the same, but it wont work the same!)

A plenum of appropriate volume and that will accept the clio throttle body

Fuel rail mounting brackets

Brake servo takeoff

Map sensor boss

Inlet temp boss


I dont think that the price of an RS2 is bad at all considering what you get and that you know it will work, the carbon plenum could be made in fibreglass or ally and take a hundred or two off the price, and you could use cheaper ally trumpets instead of the carbon ones, but thats only going to be a small saving too.


I think if people start trying to knock them up on the cheap, they are likely to end up with something that doesnt work as well or isnt reliable (sheet ally fabricated inlets fatigue on the welds over time with the continual pulses it is subject too during engine running)




Despite me having loads of experience of making and mapping various different designs of single throttle inlets over the years, when it came to getting one for our 182 (well it was a 172 at the time, we have changed cars but kept the inlet) I simply went and bought a JMS RS2 one, as I realised from how much it actually ends up costing to make your own, what a good value product it actually is TBH, I know that sounds like an advert considering what good friends I am with James Stone these days, but its the truth, if you price up all the individual components that are required to make an inlet to that standard, you would really struggle to do a one off for much less, and you are likely to run into lots of development to actually get it to fit right and work.
 
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Chi

  Z4, VW172, R26
Yes, currently in the process.

Abit more complex that just design and print though.

In the middle of material analysis study for a suitable printable polymer.

Also investing how the plenum shape and size is affecting the laminar flow.

Cool. 3D printers ftw!
 
  RB 182
3D Printing...

I did look into this but the issue was the part size, you either need to find a specialist that will print it in one, or create sub parts and bond them together. Either way, the price was over £1k for a proper smooth finish and with correct materials. iir I was quoted £600 each for manifold and aribox. That was for a transparent aribox too, the CAD image below is just wrapped with carbon effect. If your handy at making castings or GRP/composite molds, or know someone that does, that would be a more durable and cheaper route.

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