Cam belt

[ChrisPearson]

What size alan key is needed to undo the right hand cam wheel?
thanks

 

[Fred@BTM]

on which engine?

 

[ChrisPearson]

172

 

[ben_p]

how come its coming off?

 

[madmike1]

to remove the rocker cover. im basically stripping the engine to make sure everything is in good working order BTW ive just logged into my account was on my brothers before

 

[Fred@BTM]

you got the cam locking tools?

 

[madmike1]

no. do i need them? the timing is all going to be redone when i am finished

 

[Fred@BTM]

you've got no chance without the tools

 

[ben_p]

i have some for sale £40

 

[madmike1]

I got the nut undone on the other one just dont have an alan key big enough so need to know the size so i can buy one

 

[Fred@BTM]

NO CHANCE!

 

[madmike1]

I would appreciate it if you sould just tell me the size

 

[Fred@BTM]

measure it, its not rocket science, you're timing will already be out now

 

[ben_p]

can you not just measure it?

but i would not be taking that cover off if i were you. the cams are spring loaded into the head via the cover,

have you locked the crank at TDC?

 

[madmike1]

ok

 

[Fred@BTM]

well if you don't know what you're doing with an F4R you stand a good chance of f**king it up

 

[madmike1]

Its already basically off just stuck on the cam

 

[ben_p]

is the crank locked at TDC?

 

[Fred@BTM]

Its already basically off just stuck on the cam

oh dear

 

[madmike1]

Its already basically off just stuck on the cam

oh dear

well i dont know what the problem is. no i havent ben

 

[ben_p]

ahh right, these arn't any old ford engine, who is re-timing / building the engine?

 

[madmike1]

its going to be sent to a race engine specialist who is going to decode and remap the ecu and run it on a dyno

 

[ben_p]

the engine will be completly out of time, before you removed the belt you should have locked the cramk at least.

 

[Mark One]

well i dont know what the problem is. no i havent ben

No offence but Probs best not start that.

 

[madmike1]

i havent removed the belt yet all i have done is loosen the slackening nut and the nut on one of the wheels. im not an expert and dont know why taking the cover off is such a big problem. i had a qaulified mechanic with me at the time and he did not mention that there would be a massive problem. just that it would need to be retimed when it was put back together

 

[Fred@BTM]

can't be retimed without the tools

 

[madmike1]

well im sure the tools will be used then! im not retiming it and im sure the place that is will have the tools

 

[ben_p]

how mcuh is the tool kit from renault fred? £350?

 

[Fred@BTM]

i wish you luck!

 

[Fred@BTM]

how mcuh is the tool kit from renault fred? £350?

£150ish IIRC

 

[madmike1]

i wish you luck!

Thank you

 

[Mark One]

will it run fred?

 

[Fred@BTM]

if its timed up correctly, the tensioner is set correctly, and if he hasn't damaged the cams or the camcover then it'll be fine

but it sounds like he's tried to remove the camcover without removing the pullies = bad

 

[Mark One]

I really want to do a cambelt myself and this is exactly what I'm afraid of. GOD we need a guide

 

[Fred@BTM]

i'll do a guide when i change mine

 

[Mark One]

Whens that do ya think? Cos mine needs doing when I'm back from uni at end of april sort of time.

 

[Fred@BTM]

couple of weeks

 

[Mark One]

SCHWEET cheers mate.
I'll look foreward to it!

 

[Mells]

cams should be left to the experts imo! I'd do pretty much anything, but thats the one part of the car I leave well alone.

 

[ChrisPearson]

will the specilist be able to do it or are you saying the F4R is special?