CCNA Sem 4......

[Michael172]

OK so i passed my Sem 3 final last week on Monday, only got 82% which i was a bit pissed off about, i was expecting a lot higher.

Just started Sem 4....How f**king mind boggling is it !!?? Please tell me its not like this all the way through.

 

[Gally]

Is it like a B&Q test?

 

[Michael172]

Lol, no. Its not as hard as the tests i have to do in Homebase. Yes, we have to do exams ffs.

 

[Gally]

Aw sorry Homebase. My bad.
Well done i'm sure you will go far.

Little tip, don't become a car journo.

 

[DMS]

I found the stuff about frame relay hard to digest at first because I'd got no prior experience with it. I also learnt a lot on PPP and ISDN that I didn't know before (not that it's of much use).
Overall I didn't find it too difficult though. I got 88%.

 

[Michael172]

Ive not got as far as PPP and Frame Relay yet, apparantly they are quite hard to digest.

 

[KDF]

Oh great !

I'm on Sem 2 having found the first semester quite easy. Sometimes its hard to get your head round some of the stuff... the way they word certain things isn't the best either.

 

[Michael172]

yeah tell me about it lol.

I found semester 1 quite hard, but then looking back i think i just made it difficult formyself. Sem 2 wasnt too bad and sem 3 was the one i found most interesting and useful.

 

[KDF]

I've seen some of the stuff the CCNP guys are studying.. its quite interesting too. TBH I found Sem 1 boring !! i'm glad to hear Sem3 is interesting as I will look forward to that now.

So are you on a 32 week course ? or are you doing it quicker than that ?

 

[jaleach]

I found the stuff about frame relay hard to digest at first because I'd got no prior experience with it. I also learnt a lot on PPP and ISDN that I didn't know before (not that it's of much use).
Overall I didn't find it too difficult though. I got 88%.

I can teach your frame-relay in 20mins, and you'll get it. In fact - I could probably teach you the whole CCNA in a week. I don't understand how they make the CCNA last four semesters :-S

If you guys want any help - feel free to ping me - I spend a fair bit of my time at work teaching our Interns CCNA/CCNP bits.

Oh.. and:

 

[jaleach]

ps.. Wait till you do CCNP OSPF ;-)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jimleach/2860418834/sizes/l/in/set-72157606665621219/

 

[Michael172]

I've seen some of the stuff the CCNP guys are studying.. its quite interesting too. TBH I found Sem 1 boring !! i'm glad to hear Sem3 is interesting as I will look forward to that now.

So are you on a 32 week course ? or are you doing it quicker than that ?

Im at college doing a year course (Because of revels actually), i still have to take my final exam to become certified (Obviously) but im also studying some other gay units like "customer support" and "hardware" which is a f**king joke. I have 13 exams left i think. Currently reading about WAN concepts. There are a LOT of acronyms too.

ps.. Wait till you do CCNP OSPF ;-)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jimleach/2860418834/sizes/l/in/set-72157606665621219/

Rip ftw.

Lol, yes i hear the CCNP is relativly in-depth on what ive already done. What with OSPF like you mentioned and eigrp dont they cover BGP too? Hell i look back at semester 1 and most of 2 now, and realise this really is "Basic networking ages 4 +"

How many CCIE units do you have then, just the one?

Not fancy getting all 7 Im hoping ill have the balls to get into security, as i want to end up specialising in something useful.

 

[jaleach]

Heh - the CCIE isn't done as part of a course or modules. It's 14+ months of hard slog; early mornings, late nights, long weekends, lots of books and lots of contact time with equipment. I think on average I did ~20hrs a week in the 6month lead up to my first attempt - that's on top of the usual 8-5 job.

The assessment is a 2hr written (multichoice) exam and then an 8-hour lab exam with only the Cisco configuration guides as references. They can test you on pretty much any switch/routing configuration or IOS feature. Took me three attempts.

 

[DMS]

ps.. Wait till you do CCNP OSPF ;-)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jimleach/2860418834/sizes/l/in/set-72157606665621219/

<3 <3 <3 <3 <3

 

[Michael172]

I want to kill myself, Frame relay makes little sense, and PPP isnt much better really.

Its f**king hard.

 

[Has]

Sem 4 is good fun

I finished mine last May @ Uni.
Bit of a change from Sem 3 hehe, suddenly goes wham!!

 

[Michael172]

Not kidding lol, i was under the impression it wouldnt be too bad, but its really kicking my ass !!!

 

[Michael172]

URGH final tomorrow lol !!

Gunna go brush up on Frame Relay and ISDN now lol.

 

[Cookie]

Good luck

 

[Stevo_Nimbus_R27]

James is right these protocols are easy tolearn but it's how you are taught that makes it easy or hard to grasp. Unfortunately the course you guys or on is not the best. In order to understand networking quickly you need someone who can draw it up on a board and give you real world examples which can be related to the needs of the most important two factors....stability a d resilience. You will probably benefit from reading CCNP routing and switching books in parallel to your CCNA studies. CCNA is a nasty exam which explains nothing confuses alot of issues and is based on alot of legacy protocols i.e frame relay ppp and isdn. Most of this is now replaced by modern layer 2 technologies such as GigE WAN PHY and VPLS.

 

[KDF]

it's how you are taught that makes it easy or hard to grasp. Unfortunately the course you guys or on is not the best. In order to understand networking quickly you need someone who can draw it up on a board and give you real world examples which can be related to the needs of the most important two factors....stability a d resilience. CCNA is a nasty exam which explains nothing confuses alot of issues and is based on alot of legacy protocols i.e frame relay ppp and isdn. Most of this is now replaced by modern layer 2 technologies such as GigE WAN PHY and VPLS.

Totally agree with you, I'm self study (3 hours per week I have access to a CCIE) and its killing me. The way the CCNA study material is laid out is redicuolous and not in any way helpful.

I read pages and pages of material not really understanding it.. and when I finally get it I think... is that all they were trying to say, well thats simple why couldn't they just bloody say it like such and such..

1 hour to learn something that should take 5 minutes. Very poor TBH.

The course (if you can call it that) is paid for by my work but there is no actual lectures or any training.. its all done by reading the books I took a RHCT course.. 5 day intensive with full on lectures.. picked it up so easily and passed the practical exam on 5th day. Wish the CCNA was like that

 

[Michael172]

James is right these protocols are easy tolearn but it's how you are taught that makes it easy or hard to grasp. Unfortunately the course you guys or on is not the best. In order to understand networking quickly you need someone who can draw it up on a board and give you real world examples which can be related to the needs of the most important two factors....stability a d resilience. You will probably benefit from reading CCNP routing and switching books in parallel to your CCNA studies. CCNA is a nasty exam which explains nothing confuses alot of issues and is based on alot of legacy protocols i.e frame relay ppp and isdn. Most of this is now replaced by modern layer 2 technologies such as GigE WAN PHY and VPLS.

See ive not even heard of GigE or WAN PHY lol. And i was under the impression that frame relay was still used with it being relativly effective. ISDN obviously because its shite, i would think banks used it i might be wrong.

Completely fucked up my sem 4 exam its the second exam out of 45 ive failed.

And it was namely ACL's and Troubleshooting (Layers 1,2 and 3), both of which i did badly in on the chapter exams.

Btw, if you were refering to me, im being taught it at college, not self study, and no, it isnt like computeach lol.

 

[Michael172]

Totally agree with you, I'm self study (3 hours per week I have access to a CCIE) and its killing me. The way the CCNA study material is laid out is redicuolous and not in any way helpful.

I read pages and pages of material not really understanding it.. and when I finally get it I think... is that all they were trying to say, well thats simple why couldn't they just bloody say it like such and such..

1 hour to learn something that should take 5 minutes. Very poor TBH.

The course (if you can call it that) is paid for by my work but there is no actual lectures or any training.. its all done by reading the books I took a RHCT course.. 5 day intensive with full on lectures.. picked it up so easily and passed the practical exam on 5th day. Wish the CCNA was like that

They managed to spread the ccna out through the full year, i can smash through 400 pages in about 5 hours if im quick with it, and i find that they come up with the most STUPID ways of explaining things, and not explaining the things i need to know.

 

[ChrisR]

did some networking stuff in a course today and it was quite fun actually, had a play with ARP poisoning which I sadly found great fun.

 

[Phill1978]

I can teach your frame-relay in 20mins, and you'll get it. In fact - I could probably teach you the whole CCNA in a week. I don't understand how they make the CCNA last four semesters :-S

If you guys want any help - feel free to ping me - I spend a fair bit of my time at work teaching our Interns CCNA/CCNP bits.

Oh.. and:

PM`d

btw experience counts.. although sadly the pieces of paper do get you a job even if you have never worked on the a large scale WAN/LAN/WLAN

 

[Michael172]

90% this time !

if id of revised nat and dhcp properly id if got more !!

 

[young_lew]

well done!

i'm currently studying for the CCNP:BSCI

on my Sem 4 i got 89%

 

[Michael172]

I failed it first time because i didnt know Frame relay and ACL's, got a different paper this time but some of the q's were the same.

Doing the CCNP year after next, im doing 2 Microshaft units (Server 03 and desktop) next year, the folowing year im doing CCNA security and 1 CCNP unit (BSCI), and the 3rd year im doing the remaining 3 units of the ccnp. BUT during the 3 years im gunna be doing a degree in network management and working for some random company for experience.

 

[Aluco]

I can teach your frame-relay in 20mins, and you'll get it. In fact - I could probably teach you the whole CCNA in a week. I don't understand how they make the CCNA last four semesters :-S

If you guys want any help - feel free to ping me - I spend a fair bit of my time at work teaching our Interns CCNA/CCNP bits.

Oh.. and:

How much do you charge to teach thick people there CCNA ?

PM Me.

(I still don't understand subnetting)

ps. I am a third year BT apprentice.

 

[rctempire]

Im just finishing up Sem3 right now as we are talking.

Semester 4 better be good.

 

[adam1942]

gave up on this sem... decided i would do my mcse, vcp and citrix exams and go back to this.. i need alot more experience to do it imo..

 

[Michael172]

How much do you charge to teach thick people there CCNA ?

PM Me.

(I still don't understand subnetting)

ps. I am a third year BT apprentice.

Took me From 10am in the morning till 11 pm at night to understand that s**t. Now i look back and im like. WTF was all the fuss about really.

gave up on this sem... decided i would do my mcse, vcp and citrix exams and go back to this.. i need alot more experience to do it imo..

Why? Read the s**t and youll be fine.

Citrix exams are supposed to be a lot harder than the ccna.

 

[KDF]

Ye, subnetting is a b**ch.. until you 'get' it.. then its pretty easy. Again, the way cisco explain it is overcomplicated rubbish.. I ended up finding a really helpful CCIE on youtube that explained it in plain english.. easy after that.

 

[ChrisR]

chap who took the course I was on this week explained it pretty well, something I've never really looked at before but it did make sense

 

[Michael172]

And i nailed the skills exam today too which means i need to revise like f**k for the final exam. Not bad really its nice to know ive completed 49 exams since september.

The List of s**t:

ACL's
Spanning Tree (Switching)
Subnetting and VLSM (Bigtime lol)


Everything else.

 

[DMS]

ACL's and subnetting I found p'iss easy. Once you have a solid understanding of subnetting in general, VLSM's and CIDR shouldn't be too difficult to get your head around either.
I didn't learn much about STP compared some of the other layer 2 protocols, and ended up struggling to answer the questions on it in the exam.




Still passed though

 

[Michael172]

Its actually things like NAT and STP, like you, i didnt really learn it thoroughly. Nothing i cant learn however, ive got 3 weeks to make full use of the equipment now at college then ive only got shitty packet tracer to do it with.