DCi to 182 conversion

[Martin_172]

I know a few guys on here have done this conversion so looking to clear up a few points, my high pressure pump has gone on the van so this afternoon have pulled the engine and box out and have a cat c 182 coming tomorrow to re shell into the van.

EPAS, I assume this is the preferred setup now from what I've been reading so just leave my existing rack and column in? What will I need to do wiring wise?

Heating controls, van has manual heating with no Aircon, 182 has auto climate with Aircon, I assume I can just leave the manual setup in and delete the Aircon and Pas pulley's with the kits available?

Rear beam? Leave the drums and beam alone or swap over?

Anything else likely to catch me out?

 

[gez 172]

You can leave the heating controls as they are and just do an a/c and pas delete set up.

I’d definitely swap the rear beam over - no chance I’d keep drums on, unless @Brigsy can say different? You’ve got the 182 master cylinder and everything to swap over, so should be straight forward enough?

 

[Crayola]

Drums on the rear are fine, rear brakes do f**k all anyway. Unless you're whacking it round a track twice a week!

As for brakes you'd need the servo and MC from the 182 including the bulkhead brake lines as they're bigger iirc. Youd need all the dash wiring from the clio as that's different, although you can use the EPAS bits as the ECU will be there but you'll need the controller for adding in assistance control.

You can convert it to climate control easily because everything will be stored within the 182 UCH for climate etc. Could probably put AC in there if you wanted to

 

[Martin_172]

yeah rear drums I know are more than upto the job but assuming the abs isn't too much hassle I would rather do it for easier maintenance and they look better and of course the wider track and thicker torsion bar. - my understanding is I need non RS disc abs sensors from a dci 100 or 1.6 16v?

it did cross my mind to do a full aircon swap but because this one is cat c its had all its aircon pipes cut out and condenser ditched anyway so im not fussed and ill do a PAS and aircon delete.

i assume the controller isnt required its just a nicety to get a better feel?

 

[Crayola]

Dont need 100 ABS sensors if you're gonna be running the 182 ECU, just make sure you get the ABS pump from it too.

Yeah AC is a doddle to overcome then, the manual one has thr same connector as the climate one iirc. Yeah controller is just there for assistance if you wanted it light or really heavy.

I've not done this conversion myself but I've helped a mate do a Kangoo conversion, just that hes a bit of a pikey and basically just stuck everything from the Clio in the Kangoo. Not sure if everything worked perfectly but it drove mint, especially with 197 cams and pistons haha

 

[Martin_172]

haha, id rather have everything working, for now I've ordered a genuine clutch and belt kit/dephaser so I can fire it all over and get it all running, scrap whats left of the 182 then tidy it up over winter!

can you code the ESP out with clip or am I going to have to fit all that too?!

 

[Crayola]

I'd just fit it all mate as it co trolls the bias and all that s**t. Just swap everything over😂 If you have a full 182 then take absolutely everything and put it on there!!! Might as well do it properly rather than mess about finding stuff that works when you realise you threw it out when you scrapped the car 2 weeks previously😂😂

 

[Brigsy]

Bang the full 182 running gear on, rear beam, front subframe the lot. Keep the dci rack, and one of those boxes for the ecu off ebay to control it.

You can code the esp out with clip if going for a cup setup with no abs.

 

[Djw John]

Swap plates over, inform dvla and insurance of colour and engine change, jobs a good in.

 

[Martin_172]

Swap plates over, inform dvla and insurance of colour and engine change, jobs a good in.

and drive about in the worlds shittest 182?

 

[Djw John]

Yes

 

[Martin_172]

Obviously I'll be using the ecu and uch from the 182 am I right in thinking I can use the dci key and locks as long as I keep the dci decoder ring?

 

[Crayola]

Just use absolutely everything from the 182 apart from the blade in the key 😂

But yes you can leave the dCi decoder ring in there

 

[Martin_172]

Just use absolutely everything from the 182 apart from the blade in the key 😂

But yes you can leave the dCi decoder ring in there

Fantastic it was just because the dci has 2 door locks where the 182 only has one

 

[Crayola]

Fantastic it was just because the dci has 2 door locks where the 182 only has one

Lucky then, all the early stuff has 1 on the passenger side (drivers side in France)