eBay roll cages

[Zippyobrien]

As above. Any body got one ?

Was as going to make my own cage
( made cages before, I'm an engineer before any one starts )

but it see these on eBay pretty damn cheap. Just wondered what the fittment is like.


My cheers in advanced.

 

[LiamR172]

.GAZ.

 

[EZ Tutty]

There not great from what I can tell, they bolt directly to the floor & rear arch with no spreader plates or additional foot plates welded in, and the main hoop is pretty thin.

I would say however that it would almost certainly help in a roll over situation, but I'd be tempted to make some spreader plates where it bolts in the rear foot wells, and they do look pretty good, however they are no where near the standard of Safety Devices, Momo, OMP etc etc...

 

[Zippyobrien]

Oh I'd deffinatly be putting in spreader plates.
Pointless other wise.

I I totally get that a safety devices will be better. But I can't warrant 500+ for a cage in a car that owes me 500 lol.

I know now you can't put a price on safety, but welded tube is pretty much welded tube for what I want.

 

[.GAZ.]

My cage went in pretty easily. Fitment was perfect I fitted spreader plates inside and out, too.

I only paid £70 for mine lol.

 

[TFR]

£70 wouldnt buy you a 1/8th of the tube required to make a proper cage, £70 cage would probably do you more harm!!

 

[.GAZ.]

£70 wouldnt buy you a 1/8th of the tube required to make a proper cage, £70 cage would probably do you more harm!!

Calm yourself! I bought it cheap off a mate.

 

[LiamR172]

Calm yourself! I bought it cheap off a mate.

this forum is f**king hilarious at times

 

[Dan@SJM]

IMO they're cheap for a reason. Take them as a show cage.

 

[Martin.]

You get what you pay for.

 

[Cub.]

IMO they're cheap for a reason. Take them as a show cage.

You get what you pay for.

This. And this.

I'd rather not.

 

[.GAZ.]

Bla.. Bla.. Bla..

 

[Fraser.J.]

I had one before I went full cage.

You can't fault them, they're reasonably well made, and if you install with spreader plates then you're on to a winner.

 

[Cub.]

Why you should have a proper roll cage.

 

[Chip-mk1]

If offered both I would sooner have a safety devices or similar, but those eBay ones do look reasonable at doing the job, Ive yet to see one tested though.

If I had to choose between crashing a clio with no cage, or the eBay cage I guess I would want the cage.

For a few hundred more though, better to get something proper and they hold their value reasonably at resale time anyway.

 

[Budgie]

I've got an eBay cage that came in the back of my Ph1.

Looks of reasonable quality tbh. Better than nothing

 

[Djw Dave]

Calm yourself! I bought it cheap off a mate.

Aye! aye ye did. Diiiick xx

 

[Heez]

Pretty sure they're in all Clios north of the border.

 

[JP83]

Bumping this - I keep seeing one made by "Alachi" on eBay.

Anyone had any experience of them?

http://www.alachi57.com/4.html

 

[loggyboy]

They don't use CDS, so are just show cages. I wouldn't want to rely on one on a trackday. (and you wouldnt be allowed to on an MSA event).

 

[JP83]

They don't use CDS, so are just show cages. I wouldn't want to rely on one on a trackday. (and you wouldnt be allowed to on an MSA event).

Serious question - can you tell that from looking at it?

I'd be putting it in a track car, but it's for my own personal use. Doubt I'll go racing!

 

[loggyboy]

I emailed them a while asking what they used. The use ERW as its cheap. for a reason. You can also tell by the dark seam along the tube length. ERW is made by rolling and welding it in to a tube. CDS is seamless, its drawn/formed in to a tube shape, so much stronger.
Chances are if you crash with that cage it will help a little, however, if the seam splits or the weld sheers, you could end up being speared by the item you were hoping would protect you!
For me I would rather have no cage than a sub standard one. MSA/FIA recommends CDS for a good reason!

 

[-D4N-]

Serious question - can you tell that from looking at it?

I'd be putting it in a track car, but it's for my own personal use. Doubt I'll go racing!

If you value your life at £150 then go for it.

 

[JP83]

If you value your life at £150 then go for it.

FLOL. Calm down sugar. I've not committed to buying one just yet.

 

[Bluebeard]

I wouldn't touch one of them with a Barge pole.

Iirc, someone on here fitted one and bolted it straight to the tin floor with m10 nuts and bolts. I'd not want to be in that car if it rolled.

 

[-D4N-]

JP83 I'm very calm don't worry. It's just these eBay cages are poorly designed using substandard materials. If you want a rear cage only look at the Safety Devices products as that's a tired and tested product.

 

[JP83]

@JP83 I'm very calm don't worry. It's just these eBay cages are poorly designed using substandard materials. If you want a rear cage only look at the Safety Devices products as that's a tired and tested product.

Yes, loggyboy cleared that up thank you.

 

[JP83]

I wouldn't touch one of them with a Barge pole.

Iirc, someone on here fitted one and bolted it straight to the tin floor with m10 nuts and bolts. I'd not want to be in that car if it rolled.

Lol. I suspect it'd be like a steel girdle.

Also, some of what you will touch, worries me.

 

[Chip-mk1]

I wouldn't touch one of them with a Barge pole.

Iirc, someone on here fitted one and bolted it straight to the tin floor with m10 nuts and bolts. I'd not want to be in that car if it rolled.

If he fitted it like that it would make no difference between being one of these or being a proper one TBH, thats the thing with a cage, installing it properly is at least as important as making it properly.

 

[Bluebeard]

If he fitted it like that it would make no difference between being one of these or being a proper one TBH, thats the thing with a cage, installing it properly is at least as important as making it properly.

Yeah that's kind of what I was getting at mate.

 

[haimsey]

I have one of the rear half cages made my alachi as mentioned on page 1, didn't buy through ebay though.
Working for a fabrication company the plan was to use it as a jig and create a full cage from scratch how I wanted it. The fitment of them is ok and came with spreader plates and correct tensile strenght bolts, the welding is probably as good as mine (I'm a design engineer, not a welder).
As mentioned they don't use CDS tube. The guy used to build stock car chasis, and worked with a formula2 team (iirc)
When I get the time/money it will be coming out - either for a self build or a Safety Devices cage

 

[182Matt]

I looked at these cages a while back when their was another thread going on and contacted the guy regarding his materials.

He doesn't use seamless tube which I was surprised about but he does seem to have a decent background in different forms of motorsport (hot rods) if you read his website.

At least he is not just some welder who randomly sells cages.

http://www.alachi57.com/7.html

 

[JP83]

182Matt - Loggyboy mentions that above. Honestly, not knowing my roll cages at all, i'm glad I asked on here first. Otherwise it could've been a costly mistake.

I'm sure the guy's work is good, but I'd like to know that in the event of a crash I wouldn't be speared by steel tubing not made for the job.