Electric windows, central, remote locking and window demisted all died at once

[GrahamS]

It's not the dash fuses. My window is stuck down now. There is absolutely no response from the locking button on the dash, using the key (red light flashes when pressed) the rear window heater won't respond.

Car turns on and runs with no problems.

HELP

 

[GrahamS]

Okay, now the car won't start either.

Turn the key, all dash lights come up bar the imob light so I'm thinking uch is at fault.

Checked engine bay fuses and they are all intact

 

[Dr HMS Derv Destroyer]

Hahaha mines given up today. Going to try coding the key back in for mine the manual way.

Everything works but but won't start.

b*****d UCH's !!!

 

[GrahamS]

I saw mate! stupid things. I've owned 5 clios and 2 of the UCHs have gone. Always on the DCI as well.

Does you internal locking button work then? Mine is dead. Got this problem exactly.

http://www.cliosport.net/forum/show...-start-no-windows-etc&p=10136602#post10136602

 

[Dr HMS Derv Destroyer]

yeah still locks the car.

mine hasnt blow a fuse as ive had everyone out in the bay and in the dash, non blown.

just randomly desided it wasnt going to go anywhere.

solid imob light now, hense me saying, me going to try the manual ' emergancy recode '

yours sounds like a fucked UCH tho.

i hope mine isnt as i cant get the ecu cover off, which i need to for the codes as renparts cant get me a matching set otherwise

 

[Daniel]

UCH was quite cheap when I bought it from Renault Wolverhampton on here. Fitted it myself and got a mate that works for renault to code it in for £20.

Certainly not the end of the world.

 

[GrahamS]

All I want is just the power to wind the window up. Don't mind the rest! Will probably get a second hand one if you can have them coded as well. Can't afford the other one on this tight ass student finance.

 

[Dr HMS Derv Destroyer]

as far as im aware, we need the keys/UCH/ ecu that match the car.

didnt think it was possible to recode a second hand one.

will have to get fred over to do mine , IF i find the uch is at fault

 

[GrahamS]

I assume so
AlexW shed any light on this dark horse

Group buy UCH coding

 

[Dr HMS Derv Destroyer]

he's swapped a few out so im told

 

[GrahamS]

I'll await words of wisdom. Shotgun a spare N2 though.

Just took all the connections out of mine and put them back in with the hope of it working but no

 

[Dr HMS Derv Destroyer]

turn ignition on, take negative battery clamp off.

leave it 5-10 mins the retry.
it worked last time my uch had a hissy fit and locked the doors , switched power off to the windows.

 

[GrahamS]

In the process now

 

[Dr HMS Derv Destroyer]

about to go re code my key.... when my mate finally gets here....

renparts said they had plenty uch/ecu sets in for dci's. just needed teh codes to match make ect. didnt ask a price but i can see it being 200 odd

edit: renparts got a set for a 65 on ebay, 126 quid.

loads on the bay, from renparts/renbreakers ect.

 

[Dr HMS Derv Destroyer]

fixed?

 

[GrahamS]

update as we are a bunch of chaps who get things done and not pussy around saying I'll do it tomorrow!

Didn't work after leaving the the battery neg off and key on for a while.

Luckily I was able to swap the UCH from my other DCI over to roll up the windows and lock the car but it's 100% the UCH which is dead.

Will order a second hand one and get it coded somehow.

I need a UCH-BG

p8200065817 (used on lots of cars not just the DCI)

 

[AlexW]

Hai! Sorry I'm late.

100% cannot program a used UCH. Has to be new. I can do it though. Or swap bits! One thing though, get on the UCH with a multi meter and check it still has all the lives it should do.

 

[GrahamS]

Ohh s**t the bed. New one is going to set me back a fair wack.

Wiring is all okay as the one from my other dci fired up a treat.

So it's new, BBA-reman or the below.

If I were to swap the ECU,UCH and associated bits can you reprog in the injectors matey? How much would you want for that. PM me

I want the cheapest way of sorting this out as skint doesn't express enough!

 

[GrahamS]

To add to this. If I get an N2 there's no reason it won't work ja!

 

[AlexW]

Yes I can buddy.

I'll PM you in a sec.

 

[Dr HMS Derv Destroyer]

I've bitten the bullet, going to order the uch/ecu ect.

Managed to recode my key with reman guide. Worked a treat but loads of stuff on the car stopped working and still no firing up.
Key now turns the imob light out tho

 

[GrahamS]

That's what I've done as well but probably beat you to it so got the £48 set on ebay

I hate it that a stupid circuit board can cause so many problems and be so expensive. Need it sorted in about a week ideally for when my sis is back and needs the car.

 

[Dr HMS Derv Destroyer]

I need mine for thursday when I'm back on shift lol

hopefully if I ring renparts tommorow , I cN have the parts Thursday and hope to fecking god I doesn't give up again on the way to work

 

[GrahamS]

This is just great. I bought a second hand UCH, ecu, decoder ring and key. Fitted it and all the locking functions are back working okay. The solid red immobiliser light is on.

Done a multiplex test on clip and that's okay.

What are the other tests I need to do on clip to track the fault down?

@MicKPM may you be able to help

 

[GrahamS]

Here are some screen prints for what has come up. On my other DCI the immobiliser shows engine immob off and light extinguished

 

[MicKPM]

Solid red is normally a connection fault somewhere or a bad earth. Hard to say without seeing it but *sometimes* resetting the UCH Config will fix this issue.

Make note of the current Config before you hit the erase button.

 

[Dr HMS Derv Destroyer]

have you properly cleaned out the engine bay box?

first time i did it, i only cleaned a little , did nothing.

second time round, cleaned every contact that i could, all the big fuses, the white R connect at the bottom.
first turn of the key after locking/unlocking the car. red imob went out.

now ive got a new UCH that i dont now need lol.
atleast ive got a spare N3 if mine ever gives up

 

[Dr HMS Derv Destroyer]

have you properly cleaned out the engine bay box?

first time i did it, i only cleaned a little , did nothing.

second time round, cleaned every contact that i could, all the big fuses, the white R connect at the bottom.
first turn of the key after locking/unlocking the car. red imob went out.

now ive got a new UCH that i dont now need lol.
atleast ive got a spare N3 if mine ever gives up

check the fuses in the dash aswell. i had a little 5amp one looking abit worst for ware. ( door elumination light , car with doors open pick on the cover )

 

[GrahamS]

Thanks Mick, not sure how to do that, I'm scared of touching any button on this clip as I accidentally wiped my ecu on my other dci last night. Now it gets to 12% on the reprog and freezes. Using clip whilst ill and exhausted is just a terrible idea but there was no other time.

Today I cleaned all the contacts in the bay box with electrical contact cleaner and gave them a double soaking. There wasn't a great deal of corrosion although a little as expected. Still got the light unfortunately. Will have to ride the bike for a week or so because I need to come back to this with a fresh pair of eyes.

 

[AlexW]

If you're home early one evening, or during the day one day next weekend, I'll happily pop down and give you a hand/second pair of eyes/somebody to tell you that you've been stupid.

 

[GrahamS]

I am matey in the week but have no voice currently. Do you understand sign?

Stupid is exactly what I've been. Family keep saying, what are you going to do? If I knew I would have fixed it!! Knowledge from a higher being is needed, AKA you. I'll drop you a text when I'm alive again.

This is what's happening. I've tried reprog on an iso and dvd

 

[Dr HMS Derv Destroyer]

battery got a charger plugged onto it?

very BAD idea doing reprogramming unless battery voltage is at a steady 12v

also, genuine or cloned cLip?

 

[GrahamS]

Battery got a charger on ya.

Clone but I'm pretty sure it's going back. Piece of rubbish

 

[Dr HMS Derv Destroyer]

give us the serial numbers off it, ive got a clone aswell. mine works fine.

theres two types of clones on ebay, hard to tell the difference , but one is really cheap components inside and is , frankly, crap lol

 

[GrahamS]

This the bit you're after matey?

 

[Dr HMS Derv Destroyer]

Yup yours is the same as mine

although I'm using an update disk on mine.( get to from Renault , although it's all online updates now )

 

[GrahamS]

I've reinstalled clip and it now says the reprog disc is corrupted so I think that's my problem.

Will try again shortly but not holding out any help

 

[GrahamS]

This is todays problem with v113 and v105 of reprog

AlexW Tuesday or Wednesday or the weekend I am free . I got very very very moist today on my bike which was horrible.

 

[AlexW]

PM coming your way in 5mins, Hopefully my Clip won't be an issue like yours!

 

[GrahamS]

Mended mended thanks to the above man. His clip worked no problem!

Solid red light on the other ECU wouldn't go out. Tried my ecu kit on it and the car fires up no problem. New ECU kit on the way....again.