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emarald ecu/tuning



  Clio 172 cup
Hi all im thinking of getting my 172 engine turbo'd runing emarald ecu/tuning i havent heard of them before just want to know if anyone has used or heard of clio,s runing this ecu if anyone has any feedback it would help cheers
 
  BMW 535d
I run emerald on my turbo. Runs perfectly. Make sure you make use of all its features though. I didnt and now have to spend more money making use of them :(
 
  182/RS2/ Turbo/Mk1
If you are going with Emerald, go to Dave Walker for mapping, he's about the only mapper that actually likes working with it I think, lol

Fundamentally a decent enough ECU but some really bad design flaws in the mapping software that are annoying if you are used to using better ECUs. But as an end user that wont bother you as once its mapped you shouldnt have to alter it.

Dave is very good, you're in safe hands with him.
 
  Clio 172 cup
The cars mapping company is JDM near carlyie has anybody got any information on them good to hear emerald is being used as i have'nt even heard them
 
  182/RS2/ Turbo/Mk1
I personally wouldnt trust them to change an air freshener let alone map a car.

They mapped my friends Nova, the job they did was absolutely terrible, I dont mean there were a few cells not quite right, I mean you could just take one quick glance at the tables and they were so contradictory that it was clear it hadnt been done properly without even seeing the car.
Not sure if it was because they dont know what they are doing or just couldnt be arsed, but it was among the worst mapping jobs I have ever seen, it was no surprise at all that it died very shortly after.
I'd love to hear JDM's excuses for it TBH (most tuners are good at excuses) as the errors were so fundamental that I would imagine they probably would just get embarassed and go quiet if it was mentioned.

The biggest problem they caused was they relied far too heavily on the throttle position to determine the timing, so if it was at 100% throttle and on boost it timed up ok, but if it was at half throttle and still making lots of boost (which it did) then it didnt r****d and det'ed its tits off, and also the Ve of the engine reflected in the timing adjustment was NOTHING like the VE of the same engine reflected on the fuelling adjustment.
Was a proper bodge job, no excuse at all for that sort of mess up IMHO

No aftermarket mapping job ever comes close to the quality of a manufacturer map generally just cause of time and cost constraints, but that sort of thing is just unforgivable, it wasnt just a little bit wrong, it was absolutely horrific.

By contrast though, just to give both sides of the story, a guy called nic barnes has his corsa mapped there and it seems to work well, not sure if its mapped better or only driven at wide open throttle, but just to show they dont melt every car they see.

JKM (in portsmouth) are another emerald specialists and they are very good, just in case anyone reading this things Im talking about the wrong company.
 
  Clio 172 cup
I was recommended to JDM by the company that is rebuilding my engine. Have you ever heard of Hiflowheads in east lothian? just doing abit of digging around before i drop of the engine.
 
  182/RS2/ Turbo/Mk1
I was recommended to JDM by the company that is rebuilding my engine. Have you ever heard of Hiflowheads in east lothian? just doing abit of digging around before i drop of the engine.

No mate I havent heard of them.

This is Gary's just run in and mapped engine 120 miles after it left the JDM dyno:
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Literally nothing left of the back of the piston, you can actually see the ring.


But if its who your engine builder recomends then the simple answer would be to ask him to take the car down and give it back to you when tis finished, its his problem if it melts then?!
 
  Clio 172 cup
cheers mate, After seeing this pic i'll definatly be speaking to the guy thats doing the work on my engine about using a diffirent tuner.
 
  182/RS2/ Turbo/Mk1
MSD in blackpool would be my first choice in that part of the world, but they arent cheap.

Russ Patton at performance HQ is another tuner up that way (DUNFERMLINE, not sure how far that is from you) that you'll only ever hear good about, really clever guy.
 


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