EML on - MOT due soon

[z8jay]

Thought I just had tax this month but apparently my MOT runs out towards the end of this month too

Only thing is that my Engine management light is on. This isn't an unusual occurrence for my car but it usually goes off after a while. Has stayed on a lot longer than normal though. Whenever fault codes are read/cleared it's always something to do with one of the lambda sensors

Just wondering;

-Will they fail the MOT just for the light being on?
-Is it likely to be a lambda sensor finally giving in, hence the light staying on longer?
-Where can I take it for an MOT that won't rip me off - should they need to repair something? I'm near Northampton.

 

[totti182]

Engine management light is NOT an mot failure as many people think it is, vosa haven't made it a failable item yet the same as airbag lamps

 

[Owen92]

I thought the new rules became fail-able in April?

 

[RJG22]

I beleive that with the new rules that came in this year any light showing on the dash is a failure...

 

[Chapster5]

Engine management light is NOT an mot failure as many people think it is, vosa haven't made it a failable item yet the same as airbag lamps

^ Air bag lights are a straight fail as it's the safety of the car. My mate just failed 3 times with Air Bag lights on his Civic he thinks he's fixed it though now lol

I beleive that with the new rules that came in this year any light showing on the dash is a failure...

^This

 

[Ricardos]

Take the lambda sensors out and test them if it's pointing in that direction.

 

[pastieman]

HOw many times is it going to be said the new mot failure items have not yet come in to force.....

If your mate failed on an air bag warning light he could have asked for an appeal form and would have won !!!

If your eml light is on at at this present moment in time it will be a pass and advise

 

[z8jay]

I had the same response from mick at diamond motors. So the light should be no prob hopefully

Another thing is my handbrake cable is snapped on one side

 

[Chapster5]

Engine management light is NOT an mot failure as many people think it is, vosa haven't made it a failable item yet the same as airbag lamps

I beleive that with the new rules that came in this year any light showing on the dash is a failure...

HOw many times is it going to be said the new mot failure items have not yet come in to force.....

If your mate failed on an air bag warning light he could have asked for an appeal form and would have won !!!

If your eml light is on at at this present moment in time it will be a pass and advise

http://uk.autoblog.com/2012/01/04/changes-to-mot-rules-in-2012-are-you-ready/

Read, Absorb, Learn

 

[RDH]

I got an advisory.

 

[pastieman]

http://uk.autoblog.com/2012/01/04/changes-to-mot-rules-in-2012-are-you-ready/

Read, Absorb, Learn

So what you read on the Internet is correct ffs !!!

And I am wrong as an mot tester and the seminar I went to in march told us it might come in later summer ???

If you want information on anything to do with the mot get it from Vosa no where else, the rest is bs !!

 

[pastieman]

Here you go this is the special notice ALL mot testers would have got

http://www.dft.gov.uk/vosa/repository/Special Notice 3-12.pdf

Read this

 

[scotty2hotty81]

There is approx 28 extra items added to the "refusal of Mot" list some have come into force some haven't (yet)

 

[ditz]

Read absorb learn a shitty Internet link that could have been written by a moron.

I'm a tester too, and can confirm that it's not a fail yet.. Vosa haven't told us when it will be either. As far as I can work out the engine management light will
Never be a failure item DESPITE all the flyers going round trying to sell diagnostic gear

 

[Chapster5]

I stand by what I say an airbag light is a fail

 

[pastieman]

I stand by what I say an airbag light is a fail

This statement just shows that what you believe to be correct can be very very wrong !!!

Bring your mates car to me who failed "3" times for the airbag warning light and i would pass and advise it

 

[Chapster5]

You would have to go to Ireland to do it

 

[pastieman]

That's why it has failed then the Irish mot is different to ours im sure they already are failing these items

 

[Chapster5]

Probably be why then

He just text... He failed on the Airbag again lol

 

[welshname]

Probably be why then

He just text... He failed on the Airbag again lol

1K resistor across the wires. Done job, the 1k resister will sit in place and allow for the airbag light to "sequence" properly when tested

 

[Chapster5]

1K resistor across the wires. Done job, the 1k resister will sit in place and allow for the airbag light to "sequence" properly when tested

Cheers mate he said they are wiring his Airbag light to his Oil light lmao so it will skip it

 

[welshname]

Cheers mate he said they are wiring his Airbag light to his Oil light lmao so it will skip it

Then it's a fail. The light should sequence.

 

[Chapster5]

I have no idea, I'm leaving it to him It doesn't help hes got an aftermarket wheel so no air bag is on it

 

[welshname]

I have no idea, I'm leaving it to him It doesn't help hes got an aftermarket wheel so no air bag is on it

Which is why you put a 1k resistor over the wires that the airbag would plug onto.

 

[Chapster5]

Cheers

If he fails again after trying this Oil light thing then I will tell him to do that lol will that 1k work on a Civic EJ9 or just Clio's

 

[welshname]

Same for everything iirc. Well. All the cars we have done it on have been.

 

[Chapster5]

Same for everything iirc. Well. All the cars we have done it on have been.

cool sounds good!

 

[Struggler]

Right to clear this up!! the VOSA regulation manual released for jan 2012 states under

5.4 supplementary restraint system,
reason for rejection number 2.

srs malfunction indicator lamp
1. inoperative
2. indicating a system malfunction

as far as i can see, theres still nothing on the engine management light.

 

[pastieman]

Right to clear this up!! the VOSA regulation manual released for jan 2012 states under

5.4 supplementary restraint system,
reason for rejection number 2.

srs malfunction indicator lamp
1. inoperative
2. indicating a system malfunction

as far as i can see, theres still nothing on the engine management light.

Wow you found the mot guide well done you.... Yes it states it in the Manual but it has not come in to action yet !!!

There is still alot of legal crap to deal with and also it gives us more time for testers and the general public to get use to what's coming into the test !!

Like trailer plugs not in the test yet but testers should be using the equipment to test if it works, so...

1, the tester gets use to it in their routine once it comes in to force!!

2, and if they find it not working they can pass and advise so it raises the awareness to the owner of the car the new regulation coming into force!!!

It's the same as air bags etc....

For the last time no one knows when it is coming in to force.... Not even Vosa employees

Hope now it clears it up end off !!!

 

[z8jay]

Well thanks for your input everyone!

I'll let you know what happens on Friday

 

[pastieman]

Also I was gonna say take it to a local authority run mot station that only does the mot and no repairs you will get a genuine mot carried out as they are not looking for extra work

Unlike many other places

 

[z8jay]

That's a good point actually

If it should need work doing how would I get it done tho? Failed MOT means I can't drive it right?

 

[pastieman]

If it has failed you can legally drive a car from the mot station to a garage to get repaired and then back to the mot station!!! Without mot

If you for pulled you would have to prove that you are doing the above !!!

Basically if it does fails get it repaired ASAP, this is why we advise people to mot their car before the expire date, upto 28 days before the expire date to keep the anniversary date !

 

[z8jay]

Cheers pastieman. Will see what happens tomorrow.

Engine light is off again anyway so that's a good sign

 

[z8jay]

Failed on the cable as expected

Trying to source and fit one is not an easy task! Sitting in Renault waiting for the parts guy as he didn't answer the phone as usual....

 

[GSKingsbury]

Mine failed today on 1 bottom ball joint and a rear number plate bulb. The garage can't get another bottom ball joint till Monday now either. Arghhhhh no car for the weekend !!

 

[z8jay]

My parts aren't in until Tuesday. awesome.