FAO Anyone With Retro-Fitted Xenons

[bmh.01]

Did your car pass its MOT with them in?

I'm fully aware of all the legal stuff in relation to these but i'm sure i've read thats someones car passed with them in. My MOT is next week and I don't want to end up paying for two, i'll just put the standard halogens back in and get the MOT done then refit the xenons if it won't pass with them fitted.

 

[BrianR]

Xenons or HID ?

 

[bmh.01]

These:

HIDs. I'm fully aware of the legal rammifications I just want to know if other peoples have passed.

 

[BrianR]

Well I cant answer for other people who have had tests done very recently, but I do know there was a VOSA directive sent to all MOT stations reminding them of the illegality of retrofitted HID lights.

So I guess it comes down to how each testing station observes the rules, or until VOSA put a test car through them and they get a warning or de-listed.

 

[bmh.01]

Hmm. Might ask the MOT place about it but i've got a feeling that bumper is coming off this weekend. Don't want to ask them and remind them about it.

 

[Gumby]

On a side-note, is there any way to fit them legally? Would you need to have a specific light casing and auto-levelling unit?

 

[bmh.01]

Well there the 182 Xenon clusters but I imagine you'd need to fit headlight washers and the autoleveling to make them 100% legal.

 

[Gumby]

If it's an actual hid cluster then it would surely be ok wouldn't it? I thought they fail people because the dipped beam does not have a definite edge if you just fit hid's to normal clusters?

 

[BrianR]

Yes thats the only way, fit the complete Renault headlights, and washers, with the self levelling system. Its not a massive job, just a bit costly.

The problem only arises when you fit the conversion kits into the standard lens/reflector assembly.

 

[bmh.01]

Well this is my point as those clusters are the actual Renault fit HID clusters with the projectors designed to suit. But I assume it'll still fail as there sans washers and leveling.

 

[BrianR]

Yes, it will fail without the washers and s/l

Read this, I cant post it because its copyright.

http://www.danielsternlighting.com/tech/bulbs/Hid/conversions/conversions.html

 

[polarbert]

MMMMMbop.

 

[polarbert]

Xenons or HID ?

They're the same thing.

And that link you posted is over a year and a half out of date, and its b****cks to boot.


HID kits are legal, otherwise they wouldn't be selling them as widely as they do.

I've never heard of people being failed for having them, but have seen plenty of people who have had them installed to their vehicle.

You don't need washers if you put them on after you've bought the car, the same goes for self-levelling.

 

[bmh.01]

Xenons or HID ?

They're the same thing.

And that link you posted is over a year and a half out of date, and its b****cks to boot.


HID kits are legal, otherwise they wouldn't be selling them as widely as they do.

I've never heard of people being failed for having them, but have seen plenty of people who have had them installed to their vehicle.

You don't need washers if you put them on after you've bought the car, the same goes for self-levelling.

Now I understand this but i'm wondering if i'm going to run into complications as there the standard fit clusters, despite them being retrofit. That and this recent VOSA thing does seem to tan them pretty well iirc. Wouldn't mind seeing it again actually to have a read if anyones got a link? BrainR?

 

[-Leigh-]

Xenons or HID ?

They're the same thing.

No they aren't. Xenon's are normal bulbs, with xenon gas in instead of halogen.

HID's are High Intensity Dishcarge lights, with which the bulbs don't have a normal filament, but an arc of light.

The conversion kits aren't legal either.

 

[BrianR]

Xenons or HID ?

They're the same thing.

And that link you posted is over a year and a half out of date, and its b****cks to boot.


HID kits are legal, otherwise they wouldn't be selling them as widely as they do.

I've never heard of people being failed for having them, but have seen plenty of people who have had them installed to their vehicle.

You don't need washers if you put them on after you've bought the car, the same goes for self-levelling.

Come back when you know what you are talking about, :rasp:

 

[BrianR]

Here is the link to the auto express feature,

http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/videos/featuresvideos/204742/xenon_test.html


And this is the original thread (well one of them)

http://www.cliosport.net/forum/showthread.php?t=202322&highlight=hid+lights

 

[Gumby]

Well this is my point as those clusters are the actual Renault fit HID clusters with the projectors designed to suit. But I assume it'll still fail as there sans washers and leveling.

this is why I went for the 182 xenon units rather than opting to retro-fit them. The beam is perfect and car passes it's MOT every time.

From the other HID thread http://www.cliosport.net/forum/showthread.php?t=202322

 

[bmh.01]

^Thats what makes me wonder if it'll be alright leaving them on. Hmm.

 

[Ryan k]

I have xenon bulbs :-

 

[bmh.01]

Eh now i'm confused, the dip beam should be on the outside? And I assume there not HID bulbs?

 

[Ryan k]

Thats my diped beam lol and no its not a HID bulb xenons on a 182 are on out side lol

 

[bmh.01]

Well the dip beam on my old 1.2 was on the outside, and i'm sure the original halogens on the 1.6 were too.

 

[Ryan k]

inside again lol

 

[bmh.01]

How wierd, and its not a Ph3 either. What plate is it?

 

[-Leigh-]

That's the wrong way round lol

 

[Ryan k]

02 lol its how it was made Lmao i havent done ewt to it

 

[Ryan k]

Just found out they are my side lights dip beam is outside lol

 

[-Leigh-]

02 lol its how it was made Lmao i havent done ewt to it

My g/f's 02 plate Dynamique has the dipped on outside and full inside. H7 dipped, H1 full. The sidelight bulbs are in with the full beam.

 

[Ryan k]

Ye them pics are of my side lights lol

 

[bmh.01]

That'd explain it then lol .

 

[Ryan k]

:S Lol there bit bright for sides

 

[polarbert]

They're the same thing.

No they aren't. Xenon's are normal bulbs, with xenon gas in instead of halogen.

HID's are High Intensity Dishcarge lights, with which the bulbs don't have a normal filament, but an arc of light.

The conversion kits aren't legal either.

Yes they are the same thing. I have xenon lights on my car, and they also known as HID. The brochure says xenon lights.

 

[polarbert]

They're the same thing.

And that link you posted is over a year and a half out of date, and its b****cks to boot.


HID kits are legal, otherwise they wouldn't be selling them as widely as they do.

I've never heard of people being failed for having them, but have seen plenty of people who have had them installed to their vehicle.

You don't need washers if you put them on after you've bought the car, the same goes for self-levelling.

Come back when you know what you are talking about, :rasp:

Well thats a nice thing to say. But I'm not going anywhere.

 

[polarbert]

I love that auto express safety guide, he's a complete tosser. Relating headlights to death. What a joker.