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Fifth Gear last night - 182 Trophy V's MCS Gen 2, V's Skoda Fabia VRS - £5000 hot hatch bargains.
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R3k1355
ClioSport Club Member
There's been a few decent 182's up recently, one down on the South Coast wanted for nothing, circa £1800.
This one here needs a couple of small things but is still quite a deal at £1900.
This one at Rentech looks pretty much bob on for £2500 considering it's literally just had the belts done
Seen a few around a grand mark, needing a fair bit of work though obviously.
Land Rover
Yep those all look alright, but nothing like mine.
In fact l have viewed one of those!!
You have to view a car to see what it’s really like.
They all look mint in the photos, l looked at one in Liverpool that was only £1300 and it had the belts done etc but l could see it had been repaired at the front.
Another was £6,000 but it needed over £1,000 spending and another at a dealer for £4,000 had ripples in the rear wings (??) despite being described as “mint” and it had all the belts a new clutch nice interior etc
Another had no history and one had NEVER had a timing belt change
One pulled to the left....and one had rust inside the lower rear wings.
In fact l have viewed one of those!!
You have to view a car to see what it’s really like.
They all look mint in the photos, l looked at one in Liverpool that was only £1300 and it had the belts done etc but l could see it had been repaired at the front.
Another was £6,000 but it needed over £1,000 spending and another at a dealer for £4,000 had ripples in the rear wings (??) despite being described as “mint” and it had all the belts a new clutch nice interior etc
Another had no history and one had NEVER had a timing belt change
One pulled to the left....and one had rust inside the lower rear wings.
Most on here don't think to themselves, I can buy a car that has been loved & has proper history for x amount. They'd rather see a lower price, then expect to get £500 off 'because the belts need doing' and spend money on it getting it right.
I stand by what I said wrote the other day. To get top money you've got to sell it to people. Your advert on here is pretty poor.
Only two pics, none of the interior.
No mention of mileage.
And from memory, no mention of the number of owners.
Tells us to google up the reg & and look at threads on here (yeah right!)
Hasn't put it on PH.
It's a 182 cup so naturally worth less than a 'FF'
What else would put me off, you've spent a ton of money on it (basically half it's value) and are selling it right away. And you want top money.
I stand by what I said wrote the other day. To get top money you've got to sell it to people. Your advert on here is pretty poor.
Only two pics, none of the interior.
No mention of mileage.
And from memory, no mention of the number of owners.
Tells us to google up the reg & and look at threads on here (yeah right!)
Hasn't put it on PH.
It's a 182 cup so naturally worth less than a 'FF'
What else would put me off, you've spent a ton of money on it (basically half it's value) and are selling it right away. And you want top money.
Land Rover
It’s not a Cup it’s an ff
I never said it was a Cup
I will post more pictures but what is wrong with looking at the last owners project thread on the car? That’s what l did when l bought it.
I asked £4,000 ono
Nobody has considered or mentioned the number plate which is worth around £500. So if someone was to offer say £3800 and then sell the plate they’ve got the car for just over £3,000
Is that top money for this car? Have you been to see it?
My check list when looking at these was as follows
How much MOT?
When was it last serviced?
When were the belts done, and by who?
Is the idle steady? (Uneven or lumpy idle could be timing out)
Are the rear arches starting to go, or inside the rear wings at the bottom?
What’s the body like, any dents? (ignore minor door dents which can be fixed but a lot of them shows a lack of care)
Ancillaries does it need tyres, brakes, exhaust, wheel refurb?
How’s the clutch, has it been changed?
What’s the interior like, steering wheel, plastics, bolster, drivers floor area of carpet?
Underside, rear subframe, rear of sills, how rusty?
Any oil leaks?
Aircon, does it work? Is it serviceable?
The car will be on PH in due course but l wanted to see if anybody on here was interested first.
Like l said, l often don’t keep cars long, it’s just the way that l am. I’ve had twelve cars since 2006 including the Lotus that l kept three years and the BMW four. So that’s ten cars in six years
All were minters, and most l didn’t lose any money on.
I bought a Clio 1.2 as a temporary car while we were waiting for a VW Up GTi to be delivered.
I ended up selling the 1.2 on after a few weeks and buying the 182 because l liked the look of it, and TBH spent more money on it than l intended to.
I never said it was a Cup
I will post more pictures but what is wrong with looking at the last owners project thread on the car? That’s what l did when l bought it.
I asked £4,000 ono
Nobody has considered or mentioned the number plate which is worth around £500. So if someone was to offer say £3800 and then sell the plate they’ve got the car for just over £3,000
Is that top money for this car? Have you been to see it?
My check list when looking at these was as follows
How much MOT?
When was it last serviced?
When were the belts done, and by who?
Is the idle steady? (Uneven or lumpy idle could be timing out)
Are the rear arches starting to go, or inside the rear wings at the bottom?
What’s the body like, any dents? (ignore minor door dents which can be fixed but a lot of them shows a lack of care)
Ancillaries does it need tyres, brakes, exhaust, wheel refurb?
How’s the clutch, has it been changed?
What’s the interior like, steering wheel, plastics, bolster, drivers floor area of carpet?
Underside, rear subframe, rear of sills, how rusty?
Any oil leaks?
Aircon, does it work? Is it serviceable?
The car will be on PH in due course but l wanted to see if anybody on here was interested first.
Like l said, l often don’t keep cars long, it’s just the way that l am. I’ve had twelve cars since 2006 including the Lotus that l kept three years and the BMW four. So that’s ten cars in six years
All were minters, and most l didn’t lose any money on.
I bought a Clio 1.2 as a temporary car while we were waiting for a VW Up GTi to be delivered.
I ended up selling the 1.2 on after a few weeks and buying the 182 because l liked the look of it, and TBH spent more money on it than l intended to.
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imprezaworks
ClioSport Club Member
Mk5 Golf GTI :)
I've certainly been there and done that with spending a few quid and then selling. Partly due to trying to keep alive the love lol.
Car looks good. Get some very good detailed photos as many as say ph allow and write a great worded advert and it will sell. On here it's expensive unless it's your own car.
Glwts
Car looks good. Get some very good detailed photos as many as say ph allow and write a great worded advert and it will sell. On here it's expensive unless it's your own car.
Glwts
It has a CUP plate, plus washer jet blanks.. but no pics of the interior. So I naturally thought it was a 182 cup.
As for all the questions you've put - put the answers in the advert. The ad is serious bad and lacking any real info that people want to see.
People on here rarely pay good / top money for cars, they just don't.
Re, the number plate being worth £500 - maybe to the right person. But in reality it's not. A bloke a few weeks ago had one & basically couldn't give it away. If you want £500 for it, get it off the car & sell it separately. No one (apart from you it seems) is going to factor it in when they come to view it. I certainly wouldn't.
But what do I know ? I'm not the person moaning that his car won't sell.
R3k1355
ClioSport Club Member
I thought RB was a Cup only colour as well? or maybe it's just a really common colour for Cup cars?? Not sure I've seen a FF Clio in RB (no that I've paid much attention)
Also as soon as someone says "the number plate is worth £XYZ" my initial thoughts are: "Well, lets start by knocking XYZ off the price, because I don't care"
Also the interior blue plastics look mega teenager and kinda tacky, and it's super-pedantic but you've taken the Cup wheels off the car so it's not got the complete Cup pack.
Little things that are very picky but at the same time need to be correct to get top money.
Also as soon as someone says "the number plate is worth £XYZ" my initial thoughts are: "Well, lets start by knocking XYZ off the price, because I don't care"
Also the interior blue plastics look mega teenager and kinda tacky, and it's super-pedantic but you've taken the Cup wheels off the car so it's not got the complete Cup pack.
Little things that are very picky but at the same time need to be correct to get top money.
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Oh totally, I get that.
It's almost just a cosmetic thing, really.
If 2 cars were sat, side by side, for sale, in all other ways identical but 1 had an ageless plate and was £500 more, I'd take the one with the normal plate.
Of course, no 2 used cars are the same...especially when previous owners have....'improved' them
imprezaworks
ClioSport Club Member
Mk5 Golf GTI :)
2-tone Clio that isn't a trophy?
Land Rover
It’s not a Cup.
A previous owner fitted all the Cup parts including suspension and washer blanks etc but it’s an FF.
It’s got climate control for a start. I paid £2700 for the car with a known gearbox issue that was going to cost £800-1000 to sort, after looking at numerous cars and finding none that were what l wanted. This one was the best that l found.
Nobody had a go at the seller on here about £2800 being too expensive.
So, l figured that as l had done a load of work on it l assumed it would be worth more.
I’ve removed the references to the value of the plate.
A previous owner fitted all the Cup parts including suspension and washer blanks etc but it’s an FF.
It’s got climate control for a start. I paid £2700 for the car with a known gearbox issue that was going to cost £800-1000 to sort, after looking at numerous cars and finding none that were what l wanted. This one was the best that l found.
Nobody had a go at the seller on here about £2800 being too expensive.
So, l figured that as l had done a load of work on it l assumed it would be worth more.
I’ve removed the references to the value of the plate.
imprezaworks
ClioSport Club Member
Mk5 Golf GTI :)
Put it on piston heads mate
Land Rover
So what should l put in the advert then.
Should l include a list of everything that’s been done to it.
No reference to the number plate.
And the obvious like 12 months MOT mileage service history.
What pictures do people want to see? I included front rear interior and engine bay. What else, the wheels, the underside?
Should l include a list of everything that’s been done to it.
No reference to the number plate.
And the obvious like 12 months MOT mileage service history.
What pictures do people want to see? I included front rear interior and engine bay. What else, the wheels, the underside?
R3k1355
ClioSport Club Member
Not really, cos from your description the car is not far off concourse standard.
You can ask 4 grand for a concourse car, but obviously it'd want the stock wheels and trim back on it.
If the underside is as clean as you say then definitely get a good picture.
imprezaworks
ClioSport Club Member
Mk5 Golf GTI :)
The wheels you have are turinis not the standard anthracite wheels. Your advert is okay and tbh if you had been a member for years there probably wouldn't be an issue, imo.
An example below of a good advert. Pic a nice location and get the camera out. Pics of the history etc etc
https://www.cliosport.net/threads/clio-trophy-248-£8-000.819580/
An example below of a good advert. Pic a nice location and get the camera out. Pics of the history etc etc
https://www.cliosport.net/threads/clio-trophy-248-£8-000.819580/
imprezaworks
ClioSport Club Member
Mk5 Golf GTI :)
Your welcome for the advice btw.
PH2 172
As someone who is spending money to keep mine reliable & a pleasure for another 5 years, I think is worth every penny at £4k.
Haha brilliant, my advert for 'rare, jdm wheels' below
Still no fecker wants them...need to rethink the advert, maybe 'super rare' ?
https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https://www.ebay.co.uk/ulk/itm/332798822974
You forgot add a list of things that they aren't
RARErareRARE JDM Wheels. notNISMO,notTRD, fits SUPRA. LEXUS
Remember your customer base
Examples
Nice
Well done
Another trick is to mention how the wheels are "only test fitted, not used, was going to use them but have gone a different direction now"
Which, for those less initiated in the world of used parts for Mazdas, actually means.
"I've smashed up the car I was going to put them on, I now need to cover my £850 excess"
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R3k1355
ClioSport Club Member
How about sticking in a picture of a completely different wheel to help sell your knackered ones??
Looks nice yea? Billy bargain at £400 notes
Except this is what you're actually buying
and they've been smashed up
Looks nice yea? Billy bargain at £400 notes
Except this is what you're actually buying
and they've been smashed up
Land Rover
I was just reading this old thread with me whingeing about my car not selling, it’s really funny looking back on it now, and a bit embarrassing tbh.
The car eventually sold on PH for £3,600. The guy who bought it was really nice, a real 182 enthusiast, but soon decided to move the car on.
He sold it to another guy who spent around £800 on it but then decided it wasn’t for him either.
It then sold l believe to a girl from lreland again for a similar price.
I guess the car has gone now, l hope the new owner is happy with it, the car was great fun to drive and l still miss it.
(By my calculations that makes her the 17th owner!)
Oh and l bought a VW Up GTi, lovely little car but my missus didn’t get on with it so she now has....a 2005 Land Rover Defender
Which she absolutely loves !!
The car eventually sold on PH for £3,600. The guy who bought it was really nice, a real 182 enthusiast, but soon decided to move the car on.
He sold it to another guy who spent around £800 on it but then decided it wasn’t for him either.
It then sold l believe to a girl from lreland again for a similar price.
I guess the car has gone now, l hope the new owner is happy with it, the car was great fun to drive and l still miss it.
(By my calculations that makes her the 17th owner!)
Oh and l bought a VW Up GTi, lovely little car but my missus didn’t get on with it so she now has....a 2005 Land Rover Defender
Which she absolutely loves !!
imprezaworks
ClioSport Club Member
Mk5 Golf GTI :)
Lol at 17 owners. Popular.
Land Rover
Actually the girl might be owner no. 18.
I think it had 14 owners before me.
The 3 previous owners (to me) are on here, all of whom did a ton of work on the car.
l spent around £3,000 on it while l had it, although l got some money back from sale of parts that l had accumulated.
I think it had 14 owners before me.
The 3 previous owners (to me) are on here, all of whom did a ton of work on the car.
l spent around £3,000 on it while l had it, although l got some money back from sale of parts that l had accumulated.
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