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HELP! under door handle lights?
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Fabia vRS
Haven't fitted mine, and haven't full investigated it yet either.
But I reckon: find the switch wire for the interior light in the headlining, then run the switch wire along the top of the screen/headlining, then down inside the capping for the windscreen pillar.
I've already found an earth point for other stuff under the dash, think it's where the plastic part of the upper dash is screwed/bolted to an alloy frame, which is then in turn bolted to the body.
I hoped that I'd be able to pass the very thin wires through the rubber trunking for the other cables (inc central locking and electric windows).
The door card would have to be removed to get access to the inside of the handle, but it shouldn't be too difficult to remove, should it...?
Then I reckon the wire is thin enough to pass through the gap in the door to the inside of the handle.
Reckon you would have to take all the things apart, then fit in reverse order of the above list.
Wot u think?
But I reckon: find the switch wire for the interior light in the headlining, then run the switch wire along the top of the screen/headlining, then down inside the capping for the windscreen pillar.
I've already found an earth point for other stuff under the dash, think it's where the plastic part of the upper dash is screwed/bolted to an alloy frame, which is then in turn bolted to the body.
I hoped that I'd be able to pass the very thin wires through the rubber trunking for the other cables (inc central locking and electric windows).
The door card would have to be removed to get access to the inside of the handle, but it shouldn't be too difficult to remove, should it...?
Then I reckon the wire is thin enough to pass through the gap in the door to the inside of the handle.
Reckon you would have to take all the things apart, then fit in reverse order of the above list.
Wot u think?
Bye Bye 182....
You say door handle lights how / where exaclty (Besides the blindingly obvious) are these going to be fitted and what method are you going to use? Will they be inside the handle or through the door card?
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agreed, but the boot light doesn't illuminate when the car is unlocked as far as i'm aware? It only has one +ve feed whereas the interior courtesy light has 2 +ve feeds at it.Nightfire said:
i wouldn't like to start looking for the interior courtesy light cables in and amongst the wiring loom in the engine bay. I would suggest that you find which A pillar the cables travel down (probably drivers side) to behind the dash board. Get your lights mounted wired up etc then do your connecting under the dash. Much easier IMO.andy con said:
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Mk1 1.4RT
This is something I'm gonna look at doing to my mark1 out of pure boredom this summer. (I could get a job but after 4years of uni I'm gonna be lazy for as long as possible).
Of course the mark one lights don't turn on till the doors are opened so gonna try and find some kind of relay that'll turn the lights on when an input is grounded and then probably be a timer till they turn off. The input being the AUX output on my alarm. Though i can't remember if the AUX activates when you unlock the doors, have a feeling its a seperate control. I'm sure theres other bits of the alarm that ground when its unarmed, ie. The central locking controls.
Still something to think about.
Of course the mark one lights don't turn on till the doors are opened so gonna try and find some kind of relay that'll turn the lights on when an input is grounded and then probably be a timer till they turn off. The input being the AUX output on my alarm. Though i can't remember if the AUX activates when you unlock the doors, have a feeling its a seperate control. I'm sure theres other bits of the alarm that ground when its unarmed, ie. The central locking controls.
Still something to think about.
Audi TT Stronic
But if you wire it to the interior light, everytime you open a car door the lights will come on, or for that matter whenever you switch the interior light on ..
A better idea would be to run a slave timed relay off the central locking actuator pump, so that the handles only light up when the central locking is unlocked, then just set the slave relay to 5 seconds or whatever
A better idea would be to run a slave timed relay off the central locking actuator pump, so that the handles only light up when the central locking is unlocked, then just set the slave relay to 5 seconds or whatever
Audi TT Stronic
Maplins
Rs Components
CPC
Any of them should do a 12v timed relay. Simply put you take a feed from the switched 12v+ on the actuator pump, feed that to the timed relay and also feed the timed relay a constant 12v+ feed, when you click the keyfob to open the doors 12v+ is sent to the actuator pump, this inturn is then sent to the timed 12v relay, this feed activates the relay which sends the permanent 12v+ through the relay to the LED's and after 5 seconds the relay deactivates the permanent feed from the relays until the next time you unlock the car.
Infact im sure I have a timed 12v relay at home, i'll have a look for it when I get a chance.
Rs Components
CPC
Any of them should do a 12v timed relay. Simply put you take a feed from the switched 12v+ on the actuator pump, feed that to the timed relay and also feed the timed relay a constant 12v+ feed, when you click the keyfob to open the doors 12v+ is sent to the actuator pump, this inturn is then sent to the timed 12v relay, this feed activates the relay which sends the permanent 12v+ through the relay to the LED's and after 5 seconds the relay deactivates the permanent feed from the relays until the next time you unlock the car.
Infact im sure I have a timed 12v relay at home, i'll have a look for it when I get a chance.
Audi TT Stronic
Depends on how it is wired, but why run a wire all the way up the piller and headlining when you have a wire that can do what you want already in the door ?
One thing I do like about the interior light idea is that there is a dimmer on it, so it fades out, if you could tap into that the theoretically the LED's would also fade out. Have you thought about how you are going to attach the LED's to the door handles ?
One thing I do like about the interior light idea is that there is a dimmer on it, so it fades out, if you could tap into that the theoretically the LED's would also fade out. Have you thought about how you are going to attach the LED's to the door handles ?
Fabia vRS
KDF said:
Mmm, good point!! Plus I think the power supply etc for the stuff in the door connects to the body via a plug, rather than complete cable. If that's the case, then it'd be a pain in the ass to connect the led through it.
The door handle LED's I'm using under the dash are from the Chavspeed section of halfords, think they are made by PRISM-bout £10 for the pair. 4 hi-power micro leds set in a line on a flat self adhesive strip. Figured that once you've degreased the inside of the plastic handle (I'd use meths) then they should stick pretty well, cos they have under the dash.
How much do you reckon for a slave timed relay? Guess it would be easiest to buy 2, one for each door?!!
Audi TT Stronic
If you run it from the interior light, 1. If your running it from the door then ye you would need 2 to save running a cable right the way across the car. The ampage usage of the LED's would be very low so you could probably get away with a very small relay as you wouldnt be switching high amps.
I must have a look at these LED strips, I was thinking SMD LED's would be best due to their size and light distribution pattern. Im gonna see what I can come up with for a complete circut, if I get anything good i'll post up the part numbers and circut diagram for ya.
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Here is what I was thinking (in white)
Current consumption is 220mA
http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?ModuleNo=47376&criteria=smd led strip&doy=3m5
But would probably want a strip with SMD LED's closer together and cuttable in shorter lengths
I must have a look at these LED strips, I was thinking SMD LED's would be best due to their size and light distribution pattern. Im gonna see what I can come up with for a complete circut, if I get anything good i'll post up the part numbers and circut diagram for ya.
edit*
Here is what I was thinking (in white)
Current consumption is 220mA
http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?ModuleNo=47376&criteria=smd led strip&doy=3m5
But would probably want a strip with SMD LED's closer together and cuttable in shorter lengths
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Audi TT Stronic
Yes it would if you go with the actuators, it wouldnt if you went with interior light. The fix is not to use the renault auto locking.. there would be other ways of getting around it but it would complicate the circut as cost extra ££
Having spent some time thinking about it, the interior light IS probably the better/cheaper option, as you would be able to hijack its supply and use its dimming function, and LED draw such little current that you wouldnt overload the existing circuts. I would say 3 SMD wide angle LED/handle would do the job.
Waterproofing is the next step
Having spent some time thinking about it, the interior light IS probably the better/cheaper option, as you would be able to hijack its supply and use its dimming function, and LED draw such little current that you wouldnt overload the existing circuts. I would say 3 SMD wide angle LED/handle would do the job.
Waterproofing is the next step
Audi TT Stronic
stoddie said:
Ye thats what I said before, but there is a downside if you use the renault ajax thingmy.. the thing that locks the doors for you as you drive off, not sure if this would affect it or not, theoretically the doors handles would only light up on unlocking, which would mean the lights would come on when you open the door (if using the ajax thing)
I dont think the fader on the interior light will work well with the LED without further modification either, or rather it probably will work but will shorten their life.
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mouthyman
just put in a switch onto the door yourself and get power from the closest 12v source.
