How to get the best start when flooring it?

[shadowsun]

Greetings,

When you're about to boot it or drag it out with another car (be it on the track or road) what is the best way to get a good start? What settings do you use and why (e.g. switch of TC etc...).

I was racing a BMW M3 of some sorts the other day and didn't realise he was there until he flawed it and screetched away. Just as he was about a cars length in front I flawed it - I expected to loose but the Clio actually kept up and with the smart looking M3, and with an even start maybe would have won! I don't know how fast those M3's are but he seemed like he was giving it the beans!

So to cut a long story short - best start, how and when do you change gear throughout the range?

 

[DrR]

Hope you like buying gearboxs lol

 

[shadowsun]

I don't flaw it 24/7 :rasp:

Just when you want to have a bit of fun!

Hope you like buying gearboxs lol

 

[Dafthead]

316i badged as M3? most likely hehe

 

[shadowsun]

As I said, I expected to loose because the M series are in a different class but this looked like the real deal, has all the skirts, 4 pipes and sounded like one. Anyhow, back on topic - best start !!

316i badged as M3? most likely hehe

 

[gaz44]

Flaw mean floor?

It wasn't an M3 then! M3's are normally very quick, although you do have a 182, so...

Build up revs, drop clutch, floor throttle until you can't see behind you for smoke. Best in the wet. TC off. You see it a lot on TG.

 

[Poopensharten]

343 bhp M3?

Did he have the hanbrake on per chance?

Dont turn this thread into an Epic Driving Story

 

[shadowsun]

I have to laugh, I'm not interested in the M3! The encounter just made me want to know how to get the most from the 182. Only had it 4 weeks and it's my first perfomance car so having all this power is pretty much new to me. The only other thing I drive is a Rangerover Sport which is fast but heavy so feels like you're driving a sofa.

 

[gaz44]

343 bhp M3?

Did he have the hanbrake on per chance?

Dont turn this thread into an Epic Driving Story

Or 414bhp M3?

 

[shadowsun]

If you must know it looked like this but I have no idea what sort it is!!!
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NOW BACK ON TOPIC !!!

Or 414bhp M3?

 

[gaz44]

Greetings,

When you're about to boot it or drag it out with another car (be it on the track or road) what is the best way to get a good start? What settings do you use and why (e.g. switch of TC etc...).

I was racing a BMW M3 of some sorts the other day and didn't realise he was there until he flawed it and screetched away. Just as he was about a cars length in front I flawed it - I expected to loose but the Clio actually kept up and with the smart looking M3, and with an even start maybe would have won! I don't know how fast those M3's are but he seemed like he was giving it the beans!

So to cut a long story short - best start, how and when do you change gear throughout the range?

Seems like you were interested a bit.

Just try a few starts yourself, see what works. It's not easy to get right but you'll get a feel for it eventually. Then you will need to book in for a new clutch!

 

[Inferno]

TC off, drop the clutch somewhere between 4k and 5k rpm depending on traction available. Make sure the car is warmed up or you'll hit the early rev limiter. Even with the engine properly warm - avoid hitting the rev limiter before changing to second.

 

[gaz44]

If you must know it looked like this but I have no idea what sort it is!!!
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NOW BACK ON TOPIC !!!

Nice car. CSL? Even less chance he was trying! Back on topic of good starts (got my a$$ felt by a BM)

 

[Ex-User (19928)]

CSL.. It gets better.

TBH, it's a relatively small petrol with relatively low torque, so you should be able to apply quite a few revs for a launch before spinning the wheels. Just have an experiment, ideally you want as many revs as you can as you release the clutch without spinning the wheels.

I would imagine 3-4k rpm and slip the clutch until you're at 10mph and that would give a decent launch.

 

[shadowsun]

It was a beautiful looking car, but as to what sort it was I have no idea - I don't know enough about them to comment. All I do know is that M3 means its fast and the M3 badge was the first thing I noticed apart from the vents on the side and the quad exhaust. The wheels didn't look as big as in the picture though.

As for starts, wouldn't TC help as to stop the wheels spinning up? Or is spinning them up the key to getting away quickly?

 

[gaz44]

You want the wheels to be as close to spinning up as possible. TC will sense the wheels slipping and reduce the power, meaning a slower start.

 

[Big Iain]

tc is pisssssh

 

[Monaco Sean]

tc is pisssssh

Im picking up my (2002) 172 FF Wed.

Does they have TC and can you turn it off?! Only had a 20min test drive

 

[shadowsun]

Cheers for the tips guys. What about changing up all the way through the gears. Just before red line? I know there's that extra surge at 5200rpm.

 

[shadowsun]

I don't ***think*** the 172's had TC... or was it ABS... but as so frequently prooved, I am often very wrong.

It takes a humble man to admit this

Im picking up my (2002) 172 FF Wed.

Does they have TC and can you turn it off?! Only had a 20min test drive

 

[Big Iain]

If its an 02 plate one no, only the later ones did

 

[Big Iain]

Cheers for the tips guys. What about changing up all the way through the gears. Just before red line? I know there's that extra surge at 5200rpm.

Just wait till it bounces off the limiter

 

[gaz44]

172 Cup had no ABS or traction. 172 did. Turn offable.

Changing at around 6800 should work, max bhp. Just don't hit the limiter.

 

[Monaco Sean]

If its an 02 plate one no, only the later ones did

Good news!
Thanks

 

[shadowsun]

I'll have a play this coming weekend and see what happens!

 

[Big Iain]

172 Cup had no ABS or traction. 172 did. Turn offable.

Changing at around 6800 should work, max bhp. Just don't hit the limiter.

Only the later ones did mate

 

[gaz44]

Only the later ones did mate

Copy that!

 

[Munson]

Awaits the thread asking where to find cheap gearboxes

TBH don't have too much fun trying launches. It's ultimately pointless, and it's really not what the Clio is all about IMO.

 

[Riley!]

I go for slow roll off then floor it. Found it works the best and always lights up the tyres anyway. You dont need to drop the clutch at 4-5k. No wonder people get threw gearboxes on here

 

[DrR]

Im picking up my (2002) 172 FF Wed.

Does they have TC and can you turn it off?! Only had a 20min test drive

No such thing as a 172 FF, it's 172 cup or 172

 

[shadowsun]

So far I am really enjoying the 182. Yes there are the odd rattles and squeeks but overall it's been nothing but total driving pleasure. I take care to only drive it harder once it's warmed up and I don't rag it all the time. The whole point of this thread was to learn how to get the most out of the car so really guys, thanks for the tips!

 

[Riley!]

dont forget T/C off also disables the ABS. Just a heads up

 

[Monaco Sean]

No such thing as a 172 FF, it's 172 cup or 172

I know officially theres no such thing but it gets refered to as a FF on here quite often.

Just thought I'd save people asking me if it was a '172' or a '172 Cup'

 

[Munson]

dont forget T/C off also disables the ABS. Just a heads up

I aren't sure that's correct.

 

[Will.]

Awaits the thread asking where to find cheap gearboxes

TBH don't have too much fun trying launches. It's ultimately pointless, and it's really not what the Clio is all about IMO.

True. the clio is about the twisties

 

[Riley!]

Only going on what I was told by the renault sport specialist got my sisters motor from. Mines not got it anyway lol

 

[shadowsun]

Now I've opened a whole can of worms!

 

[Munson]

True. the clio is about the twisties

Well, as I found out for myself recently, it's all about the track. You don't notice the rattles on track

 

[Will.]

You dont notice rattles with loud music either. No point taking my 1.4 on the track

 

[Big Iain]

dont forget T/C off also disables the ABS. Just a heads up

I aren't sure that's correct.

Ws gonna say who told u that b****cks!