iPhone 6 Error 53

[Rich..]

Anyone who has a damaged or a repaired (not repaired by Apple) iPhone 6 if you update to the latest iOS you could brick your phone. I've had iPhones for a few years now, my next phone will not be an apple if this how they treat their customers.

http://www.theguardian.com/money/20...e-update-handset-worthless-third-party-repair

 

[welshname]

This is utterly atrocious behaviour.

You buy a phone outright, that phone belongs to you. You break it, you repair it, it is surely completely illegal to stop you from being able to repair your own phone and force you to go to them.

 

[Rich..]

My thoughts exactly, I hope they get several lawsuits.

 

[dangerous dave]

I try and stand up for Apple but when I read that it was 100% Apple scam.

They really really really do themselves no favours... I'm sure there are meant to be things in place that stop company's locking people to there repair sevices.. I'm thinking more motor industry not being allowed into invalidate warranty because a local garage does the work (using approved parts)

Must be different in the tech world.

 

[Rich..]

I could fully understand Apple invalidating the warranty, but bricking the phone because you had damage repaired is beyond ridiculous.

 

[McGherkin]

Is anyone really that surprised? It's Apple.

 

[Adamm.]

Its probably partly because people fit shitty batteries etc and end up having a phone that blows up in the middle of the night and the fingers get pointed at apple when its not their battery in the phone.

 

[McGherkin]

Its probably partly because people fit shitty batteries etc and end up having a phone that blows up in the middle of the night and the fingers get pointed at apple when its not their battery in the phone.

It's mainly the Touch ID sensor IIRC, all about 'security'

 

[Knuckles]

I could fully understand Apple invalidating the warranty, but bricking the phone because you had damage repaired is beyond ridiculous.

What's weird is that the phone doesn't need to be repaired by the sounds of it. If the phone knows it's damaged, it f***s you over.

A spokeswoman for Apple told Money (get ready for a jargon overload): “We protect fingerprint data using a secure enclave, which is uniquely paired to the touch ID sensor. When iPhone is serviced by an authorised Apple service provider or Apple retail store for changes that affect the touch ID sensor, the pairing is re-validated. This check ensures the device and the iOS features related to touch ID remain secure. Without this unique pairing, a malicious touch ID sensor could be substituted, thereby gaining access to the secure enclave. When iOS detects that the pairing fails, touch ID, including Apple Pay, is disabled so the device remains secure.”

If this is true, let's give the benefit of the doubt and say they're genuinely looking out for us. Why not just disable Touch ID and anything that it works with.

Proper douchebag move on apples part.

 

[Dom_capper]

Anyone else heard the rumour that the 7 will have a smaller than the standard 3.5mm headphone jack? Seems so ridiculous but I guess they did it with the new mac book, no usb

 

[MicKPM]

Samsung did something similar though by updating firmware to stop the use of third party "smart covers"... Nothing real came from the complaints and Samsung carried on.

It royally fucked my Note4 up though whilst updating it and having a non-Samsung cover!

I'm the type of person that would only let Apple touch my s**t anyway after being sent to an "approved repair centre" in the above example and it was the worst experience EVER! That being said, if deliberate, is very naughty Apple.

 

[dangerous dave]

I also wouldn't let anyone else touch my apple products, I always have a worry I'll get a bag handed back with loose parts in.. They're not offer qualified in anything, just a guy that's changed a few screens and decided he'll start a stall/shop..

I won't be long before there aren't any headphone jacks..

 

[Jack!]

How long before you pay £1k for an iPhone that doesn't exist because it saves space? And by having nothing, everyone has to buy one because they're breaking Apple's policy of having copyright on nothing.

 

[botfch]

I think it's fair enough Apples software works so well because it's a closed system. Allow third party's into it and you cause yourself no end of problems.
Imagine if everyone with third party touch IDs had there accounts cleared, blame would instantly be pointed at Apple.

 

[welshname]

Thing is if you replace the touch ID with a third party item the touch doesn't work. So your point is invalid.

Anyone trying to defend apple on this one is mental.

 

[botfch]

My point was a simple example of how taking things out of apples control creates risks on there end which could cost them money so it is perfectly valid.

 

[aucky]

I'd be pissed off if my phone was stolen, and they were then able to access my phone with a new button and use applepay / paypal / use personal info against me, so I understand why they've done it. I do however think you should be able to have 3rd party work validated in an apple store.

 

[Jaff.]

It's literally about the Touch ID iirc. When most phones go off for repair the Touch ID gets changed with it due to damaging it and or the cables.

Remember the tin foil hats coming out with apple and their fingerprint scanner keeping our data on their servers and the iPhone 5s! Shock horror!
Now we find out their system is actually pretty secure and it stops every Tom dick and Harry using your phone to buy Coke and hookers using your finger print in £30 chunks we complain because it bricks the phone. Sounds like a superb safety feature to me!

Moral of the story, don't break your phone, and if you do use an approved system to repair it to keep your identity and money safe!

Imagine, £140 for a repaired iPhone from Apple or £50 from George on the high street. Saving of £90.
George didn't use decent parts and Apple has no validation that £90 saving could be easily chewed up by some scrote nicking your phone (and you having to go to apple anyway, how ironic) and taking his chav misses to the cinema and treating her to some popcorn 3 times

 

[Knuckles]

To be fair though they don't need to brick the whole phone, if it really is a Touch ID issue then just completely disable the Touch ID if a third party has to touch the phone.


The issue apparently isn't to do with repairs either. One person is reported to have a bit of minor damage to his phone, it works fine for ten months until he updates, the phone realised it's damaged an s***s itself. Locking the guy out.

 

[Jaff.]

To be fair though they don't need to brick the whole phone, if it really is a Touch ID issue then just completely disable the Touch ID if a third party has to touch the phone.


The issue apparently isn't to do with repairs either. One person is reported to have a bit of minor damage to his phone, it works fine for ten months until he updates, the phone realised it's damaged an s***s itself. Locking the guy out.

Easy to see if the cable to the Touch ID is damaged the phone can recognise that and s**t itself off...?

I agree it's a bit much but from what I read yesterday apple stores are revalidating sensors for those suffering with this error.

Trouble is Touch ID gets you into everything these days

 

[ForceIndia]

Anyone else heard the rumour that the 7 will have a smaller than the standard 3.5mm headphone jack? Seems so ridiculous but I guess they did it with the new mac book, no usb

Won't be smaller, it'll disappear all together and use the lightening port.

 

[DrR]

Good, don't think I've ever used the earphone jack on my phone, much rather the space be used by a bigger battery or something.

 

[aucky]

Won't be smaller, it'll disappear all together and use the lightening port.

So you'll be forced to use their terrible headphones or buy a £50 adapter?

 

[ForceIndia]

So you'll be forced to use their terrible headphones or buy a £50 adapter?

There are advantages (full digital), but yes. I refuse to believe anyone is surprised by Apple trying to lock users in to their products. Always been the way, always will.

 

[welshname]

Has no one listened? If you change the touch ID button or ribbon touch ID doesn't work, never has never will as the serial number of the part is registered with apple when made and no other button would work, not even one from another genuine phone.

Them disabling the phone on top of this is purely ridiculous and you're all sat here saying it's for security when the security is already in place to stop what you're all trying to say this achieves.

Mental.

 

[McGherkin]

It's not just Apple who do it.

I was working on a hydraulics system once which had been built and fitted by an external manufacturer. When it was disassembled it turned out that all the connections were wanky as f**k with 2 O-seals, a Dowty seal and a two piece metal insert on every one. Of course none of these were off the shelf items and the only way to get new ones (a regular maintenance task) was to source them direct from.... you guessed it. The OEM. So some parts that would ordinarily cost 0.££ ended up costing ££££.

 

[Dom_capper]

I use my headphone jack at least an hour a day, i'd be gutted if they got rid. Bluetooth just isn't there yet with sound quality unless you spend £££. I'd like to think i'd f**k Apple off if it happened but i like how mac/iphone/apple tv work together.

 

[CrippsCorner]

There are already Lightning headphones. They'll probably include some free in the box... who cares. I got some £70 Bluetooth headphones for Christmas and they sound pukka, bruv.

 

[Deeg]

Manufacturers have been locking people into products for years. It's nothing new that only relates to Apple.

Plus, you have the ultimate choice of whether not to use Apple projects.

I continue to use Apple because I like them and I can use them. My experience of Android is that it's hard work. I'm not into the "good stuff" that Android offers. BlackBerry? Lol. Microsoft / Nokia. Again, the UI and architecture is horrid.

A lot of people are into the Oneplus thing, but again, I'm not a tech, so it holds no appeal.

As for getting things replaced at Apple. I do it because you get the 3 month warranty on the repair. Yes it's more expensive, but I will be surprised if this isn't challenged in Europe.

 

[dangerous dave]

Manufacturers have been locking people into products for years. It's nothing new that only relates to Apple.

Plus, you have the ultimate choice of whether not to use Apple projects.

I continue to use Apple because I like them and I can use them. My experience of Android is that it's hard work. I'm not into the "good stuff" that Android offers. BlackBerry? Lol. Microsoft / Nokia. Again, the UI and architecture is horrid.

A lot of people are into the Oneplus thing, but again, I'm not a tech, so it holds no appeal.

As for getting things replaced at Apple. I do it because you get the 3 month warranty on the repair. Yes it's more expensive, but I will be surprised if this isn't challenged in Europe.

The oneplus threads are a joy to read, I spend last night installing tampon jelly babies 2.1 to my phone to get more battery life and with the new kernals of Orion it actually made the phones start up faster.. That said I'm going to install Tarzan ya mum 3.6 with Mexican pancake..

Or I get an iPhone and not get involved.

Even with the apple bs, I expect I'll have the iphone7, 8 and 9.. Omg 7,8,9! must have been hungry.

 

[Deeg]

Lol.

 

[welshname]

Apple have admitted it was an issue. Anyone with a bricked phone can update it through iTunes and if you paid for a replacement through apple you can get a refund

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-35611756

 

[McGherkin]

I heard that if you set the date to the 1st of January 1970 it fixes it.

(DON'T!)

 

[Gouldy]

I heard that if you set the date to the 1st of January 1970 it fixes it.

(DON'T!)

Posted this on Facebook for a laugh

Some stupid f**k actually did it and tried blaming me for it lol

 

[sn00p]

The oneplus threads are a joy to read, I spend last night installing tampon jelly babies 2.1 to my phone to get more battery life and with the new kernals of Orion it actually made the phones start up faster.. That said I'm going to install Tarzan ya mum 3.6 with Mexican pancake..

Or I get an iPhone and not get involved.

Even with the apple bs, I expect I'll have the iphone7, 8 and 9.. Omg 7,8,9! must have been hungry.

Yet for all its "shitness" you can still remove the stock apps from your home screen. [emoji1]

 

[dangerous dave]

Yet for all its "shitness" you can still remove the stock apps from your home screen. [emoji1]

I could reply with something intelligent........but I won't, I'll just say


Yawn

 

[Knuckles]

I heard that if you set the date to the 1st of January 1970 it fixes it.

(DON'T!)

What is it that that does?

Makes the phone s**t itself?

 

[Dom_capper]

When the phone runs out of battery or is turned off it won't reboot, just stays on the apple screen

 

[McGherkin]

That.

Someone made an advert on facebook claiming that it gives you a 70's Mackintosh theme and droves of mongoloids fell for it.

 

[Gouldy]

Yup. I got a few folk with it