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Is it worth selling the 1*2's anymore?



  ITB BG 182
After doing a little research on here, is it really worth selling the 172 or 182 anymore?

Ive seen some go from £900 to £2500.
Now my car, even tho it is modded, I can reduce it back to completly standard. Paintwork is in bloody good condiction, wheels and everything else is top condiction aswell, ok steering wheel is on it way out but thats a minor thing.

But i was looking at a GT TDi for the next car to get some good MPG rates back and lower tax and insurance too.

So if i got 2500 for the clio i would need to raise another 3k at least for a good'ish golf.

But would your lot think its better to get another car, like a clio dci that will hit 50mpg to be used as a daily run and have the 182 as a weekend play toy boom box?
 

Sir_Dave

ClioSport Trader
Personally, i think that they are worth soo little these days they are good to simply have around as a spare car, or commuter/daily/winter hack etc. My Trophy's worth far more to me than anyone else for example, & what else could i get for 3 grand that would be as good/fun/cheap to run.
 

sbridgey

ClioSport Club Member
  disco 4, 182, Meglio
Personally i would sell my 172 but that is because i am young and that kind of cash is much harder for me to find, if i was older with a decent job and a salary i would probably just keep it and buy another car as a daily, it wouldn't be another clio though, probably a volvo.
 
  Audi A3
ill be selling mine in the summer next year. Thats been my plan all along.

All cars depreciate just some quicker that others. Its all relative though in my opinion
 

Gally

Formerly Mashed up egg in a cup
ClioSport Club Member
The 182's did take a nose dive. Some of them were 6k not so long ago they dropped to 3/4 in a very short space of time.

Bargain now for the charvers out there and not much more fun fast cars out there for 3-4k imo.
 
I suppose it depends if you want to change your car and don't want to tax and insure two. Yes of course it's worth selling. Or crushing with a JCB. Two large is two large.
 

Gally

Formerly Mashed up egg in a cup
ClioSport Club Member
So much fail.

Buy a 8k Citoren C1 and spend the next 10 years getting the difference back on fuel?
 
  172 cup
I've just done exactly this gone from a 172 to a golf gt tdi, nice compromise on power and economy to be honest. I've gone for a well looked after mk4 though, wanted something for similar money as the cup.

Personally i'd wait until March time to do the sale on the 182, nothing selling at the minute its a nightmare
 
  Clio 197
i wouldnt bother, as above it will take many years to get the return on the eatra 3K you will need to stump up. They arent bad on fuel anyway (unless ITB's dramatically change that)
 
  CBR1K, F21 125D
IIRC, it's only worth it IF you have spent a few K modding it, and now need a faster or cheaper car.
 
  ITB BG 182
Clio tax £245, mk4 golf gt gtdi £115 (both 12months)
Inusrance dropped by £100
MPG 45-50 all day long, drive like a granny and you'll see 60mpg out of it

I see about 20-24mpg on average with the clio, thats not from the computer, its worked out by how much i put in the car vs miles driven.
With the missis living 14 miles away and work being 12 miles away, means upto 188 miles a week with all town type driving.
 
  Clio 172
Unfortunatly gents Renault's in general at the moment are depreciating rapidly and the used car market has also been hit hard, combine the two and you have cars that were over £15k ten years ago worth less than £1000 now (PH1 172's) As for 182's alot of them are around 7 years old and again have had a real wack of depreciation recently, unfortunatly the reality is that French cars don't hold their value anywhere near German cars do. I sold a MKII Golf 18 months ago for £3500, I just bought a 172 ph1 for £650. The MKII was an 89 F plate, the 172 a 2000 W.
 

Short Norman

ClioSport Club Member
  997 C4S
it's only worth selling and moving to a more economical, lower insurance car etc if your only buying with what money you get for the clio (or you only have to put in a little more). To sell up and put in an extra 3k just to save money is not the way to go.

If you want a newer car and are happy to put money in only to lose it in depreciation over the next few year then fine.

I used to try and buy cars that that were as low or as near to the lowest they'd go to minimise depreciation, and sell up after a year. Then I'd put in a little extra and move on to something new. With normal 2nd hand cars I'd try to work on 1k per year depreciation - my 2nd hand cars were never too new.

These day's I have a 2003 320d BMW that I got for £3.5k which I plan on keeping for at least 3 years. If I do keep it for that long anything I get when I sell it will be a bonus. The other car (her car) is a new 500 Abarth on on PCP deal that gets changed every two years..... We save money with one car and throw £2.5k a year away with the other.

At the end of the day we all love cars but we also understand the need not to bankrupt ourselves while owning a good one.
 
  Fiesta ST-2
I'm in the same boat, looking at getting a MK6.5 fiesta zetec-s tdci instead. Just have to accept that clios aren't worth much anymore and I don't see them going up in value. Now is as good a time as any to sell.
 

koi

  Audi S1
I don't think so. My 172 is worth so much more to me. I'll never sell it.

Same here. Reckon once I have enough for a new car I'll just give the 182 to my dad to use, that way I still get to drive it whenever I want.
 
  172 cup
I see about 20-24mpg on average with the clio, thats not from the computer, its worked out by how much i put in the car vs miles driven.
With the missis living 14 miles away and work being 12 miles away, means upto 188 miles a week with all town type driving.

pretty much exactly the same miles i do a week, I did first start the hunt for a mk2 dci, 80 but then realized for about £500 more I could have a golf 130 gt gti when one popped up cheap, looked at a few gold before I got this one though. Theres a fair few dogs and very high mileage ones out there. Im SOOOOOOOOOO glad i didn't get a dci clio I would of missed the power too much and ended up wanting something different like a golf gt anyway. Plus golfs go forever
 

Chris205

ClioSport Club Member
  Many Things
It sounds to me as if you've spent a lot of money on your clio as it is, it would be a shame to sell it and lose even more. If it were me I would be putting £2-2.5k towards a Clio dci with low miles say 70-80k. Use it for a year for your commute, they're cheap to insure and £30 a year to tax. We have one at the moment and it does 65mpg all day long. In a years time you will have saved a fair chunk of money and you'll be able to flog the dci on for exactly what you paid for it.
 
  172 Cup
I've looked at selling the clio and getting a diesel of some description, running the clio and running a cheap run around or running the clio alone.

Each of the scenarios taking into account the purchase price of the cars, fuel consumption and maintenance costs equalled each other out over 3 years.

The diesel option would only be extremely worthwhile if you did mega miles a year.
 
  Megane 225 F1
I was looking at buying a new car recently but with the money I would get for my 172, and the amount of money I would have to put towards a new car, I just can't justify it at the moment and it would break me financially.
 
  White clique
Its not worth selling if you are going to be unrealistic about asking prices like everyone was 12 months ago for example, if its priced right then it will sell - it will just sell for a lot less than people would like to hope for.
 
  RB 182
The diesel option would only be extremely worthwhile if you did mega miles a year.

I wouldn't say that is strictly true as they are better on juice and less to tax & insure. Having said that you'll only save money if you go for a cheap one that wont explode / depreciate.

When i went economical I went for a 306 HDi car cost me £900 insurance was £300 a year fully comp and it did over 50 mpg. It didn't put a foot wrong whilst i owned it and i sold it 6 months later for more or less what I paid for it.

I really dont see why anyone wanting to save money would put a fair bit of money towards a new car regardless of how much it will save them in fuel, tax and insurance.
 
  172 Cup
I wouldn't say that is strictly true as they are better on juice and less to tax & insure. Having said that you'll only save money if you go for a cheap one that wont explode / depreciate.

I agree :)
I just meant on a first year basis not over a longer period of time, taking into consideration the loss made on the clio etc.
 

Sir_Dave

ClioSport Trader
With the missis living 14 miles away and work being 12 miles away, means upto 188 miles a week with all town type driving.

Is that it lol. Absolutely no point whatsoever buying a derv!!

At 24mpg vs 50mpg, you will save £100 a month. Which sounds great, until you realise that you are spending 3 grand to change.

Payback period = 30 months.

Christ, i do 100 miles a day, ROFL at 188 a week FFS.
 
  Ph2 Clio 172
My 172 is worth £1000 at absolute most.

Thats why its kept as a second car and a track toy :)

Nothing else does that as good for less.
 
  Clio V6
The only way you'll get a clear benefit is to sell yours and get a Clio diesel for the same money. They are hero cars for saving £'s!
 
  320d
If you want an upgrade the yes sell it, selling it to save money then don't.

I was planning on keeping my MX5 as a toy when I get another car in hopefully under a year. Then I looked into the fact I'd need to insure it, tax it, service it etc. Yes it may only be worth £1500 but for that £1500 plus the other associated costs I could have a much better all round car. At my age insurance costs alone are enough to rule out having two road cars.
 
  172 Phase 1 & 172 Ph
People don't understand me at work, basically i have got a phase 1 172 and phase 2 172 and an MGB V8 and what do i choose to drive for work? a £320 pug 106 diesel...cheap as chips to run, super reliable (had it on the road for 16months so far) insurance is £18 a month fully comp with business use declared and it easily hits 58 mpg all day long - end result? i can afford to run/insure/tax a 172 whilst doing my mega miles in the 106 during the week days...

Get a cheap diesel, loads of of pug 306's and 106's about and run the 172 on weekends............
 
  Ph1 ITB'd 172
The only way you'll get a clear benefit is to sell yours and get a Clio diesel for the same money. They are hero cars for saving £'s!

I have just bought a DCI 65 - 53 plate, black, 89,000 miles £1500.

I am sad and before buying it I did a spreadsheet, these are the basics from it, based on 10,000 miles per year, 30mpg for the 182 and 60mpg for the DCI.


182
DCI
Insurance
1200.00
700.00
Tax
245.00
20.00
Fuel (10,000 miles)
1963.50
1056.75

Total (Yearly)
3408.50
1776.75
Total (Monthly)
284.04
148.06

Saving (Yearly)
1631.75
Saving (Monthly)
135.98

I didn't include and other costs as they will no doubt be similar for the two, probably a bit cheaper on the DCI (smaller tyres, etc.)
 
  ITB BG 182
Christ, i do 100 miles a day, ROFL at 188 a week FFS.
188 miles a week is my absolute minimum that i drive each week.
Looking at this week alone with what i have done, work, gym, missis, mother, shopping, training, see mates and so on. I would guess a minimum of 250-300 per week. Im also looking at doing photograhy and been asked a few times to travel to edinburgh, glasgow, fife, dundee, cardiff, sheffield, coventry and hull.

IF i start doing this next season then i will need a tdi of some form, im just contemplating on keeping the clio as a weekender or selling for a golf OR just looked at a mates octavia vrs.
 

Gaz_

ClioSport Club Member
  Extreme mode
I have a thing about a buying another BG 182 at the mo, get a guddun for 3k! Madness, I paid near 9k for a 55 plate in 2007!!
 
Spending 3k to save money = fail

Is that it lol. Absolutely no point whatsoever buying a derv!!

At 24mpg vs 50mpg, you will save £100 a month. Which sounds great, until you realise that you are spending 3 grand to change.

Payback period = 30 months.

Christ, i do 100 miles a day, ROFL at 188 a week FFS.
30 month to payback however the cars worth more and insurance and tax should be less. It all adds up
 


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