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just paid the road tax
- Thread starter paul
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The thing that pisses me off about road tax is that if I buy a car that produces less than 100g of Co2 per km it's tax exempt,
but my car that produces 199g of Co2 per km gets charged £245.
The thing is the carbon footprint of producing a new car is far higher than my cars Co2 production over a prolonged period,
so by sticking to my 172 year after year, i'm actually producing less Co2 in the long run than the new car took to produce.
I also don't have any kids so my households carbon footprint is far lower than a family of three with an eco box,
but I still get charged more when I should be given an environmentalist of the year award.
but my car that produces 199g of Co2 per km gets charged £245.
The thing is the carbon footprint of producing a new car is far higher than my cars Co2 production over a prolonged period,
so by sticking to my 172 year after year, i'm actually producing less Co2 in the long run than the new car took to produce.
I also don't have any kids so my households carbon footprint is far lower than a family of three with an eco box,
but I still get charged more when I should be given an environmentalist of the year award.
That doesnt quite count then really, as isnt it just that high because it was a new car.....
Tom
ClioSport Club Member
EV (s)
The thing that pisses me off about road tax is that if I buy a car that produces less than 100g of Co2 per km it's tax exempt,
but my car that produces 199g of Co2 per km gets charged £245.
The thing is the carbon footprint of producing a new car is far higher than my cars Co2 production over a prolonged period,
so by sticking to my 172 year after year, i'm actually producing less Co2 in the long run than the new car took to produce.
I also don't have any kids so my households carbon footprint is far lower than a family of three with an eco box,
but I still get charged more when I should be given an environmentalist of the year award.
Tough.
If it helps my car kicks out 300g/km and i pay £215.
Well i'm confused, why is it cheaper to tax a car that produces more Co2 than my Clio, is it because it's newer or something?
RB 182 FF
This subject winds me right up, my mate has just bought a seat leon which is £30 a year to tax... I have a 182 and I do approx 5k miles a year, my mate does roughly 40k a year in his car.. So who deserves cheaper road tax... I do!!!!!!!!!!!!! It's a load a sh*te, I hate this country with a passion and proud of it!!!!!!!!
I need a better car & job then. :dapprove:
Ironically if I earned more money to by a newer car I wouldn't need to,
as the road tax wouldn't sting me as much.
Ironically if I earned more money to by a newer car I wouldn't need to,
as the road tax wouldn't sting me as much.
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Tom
ClioSport Club Member
EV (s)
This subject winds me right up, my mate has just bought a seat leon which is £30 a year to tax... I have a 182 and I do approx 5k miles a year, my mate does roughly 40k a year in his car.. So who deserves cheaper road tax... I do!!!!!!!!!!!!! It's a load a sh*te, I hate this country with a passion and proud of it!!!!!!!!
Yeah, 'road tax' (which is also wrong it's VED, so has no relation to roads) is so expensive compared to other places. ROLLING MY EYES AND TUTTING AT YOU.
Did mine for 12 months lastnight as well
That's what I thought but I'm sure my GF's old 2001 1.8 mk 2.5 mx5 was £260?
That's what I thought but I'm sure my GF's old 2001 1.8 mk 2.5 mx5 was £260?
I dont think any of us here should moan about tax
sum it up- If we couldnt afford the tax we wouldnt/shouldnt have brought the car
If we wanted cheap tax or moan that people have cheaper tax then go buy the car thats cheaper ! Its the same as moving into a new house and moaning how much rent you pay!
sum it up- If we couldnt afford the tax we wouldnt/shouldnt have brought the car
If we wanted cheap tax or moan that people have cheaper tax then go buy the car thats cheaper ! Its the same as moving into a new house and moaning how much rent you pay!
bought*
I would happily pay the tax if it went on road repairs etc, and if the CO2 grading actually meant that some of the money was used to offset the carbon produced.
But it doesn't. General tax pot.
So, big taxation on engines, big taxation on petrol, incentives for cheap economical cars.
Anyone would think the goverment doesn't want us to give them money.
But it doesn't. General tax pot.
So, big taxation on engines, big taxation on petrol, incentives for cheap economical cars.
Anyone would think the goverment doesn't want us to give them money.
Clio RS 172 /Trafic
Mine is £215. Just paid it
Chocolate Orange 172
I enjoy driving my Clio so much it doesn't bother me what I pay lol
Would it not be fairer to have a tax based on the annual mileage and C02 output?
As someone has said, it doesn't seem fair that someone might pay £245 for a 182, and do 5,000 km. Based on 189g/km that equates to 945,000g (945kg) over a 5km year.
Then compare that to a BMW 320D Efficient D, that is tax band B, so £20 a year, if he then does 20,000km, again based on 110g/km that equates to 2,200,000g (2,200kg) over the same calendar year.
The incentive is wrong, if the government wants us all to reduce emissions, give us credit for not using the car, at the moment you could own a 182, pay £245 for the year, only drive it at weekends and cycle to work, yet pay significantly more than some lazy b*****d in a BMW derv who drives everywhere without a care in the world about emissions!
I'm not bleating on because it is how it is, doubt it will change, but when you look at the current system, it does seem a little unfair. Having said that, I'm sure a tax based on mileage/emissions would have it's negatives too...
As someone has said, it doesn't seem fair that someone might pay £245 for a 182, and do 5,000 km. Based on 189g/km that equates to 945,000g (945kg) over a 5km year.
Then compare that to a BMW 320D Efficient D, that is tax band B, so £20 a year, if he then does 20,000km, again based on 110g/km that equates to 2,200,000g (2,200kg) over the same calendar year.
The incentive is wrong, if the government wants us all to reduce emissions, give us credit for not using the car, at the moment you could own a 182, pay £245 for the year, only drive it at weekends and cycle to work, yet pay significantly more than some lazy b*****d in a BMW derv who drives everywhere without a care in the world about emissions!
I'm not bleating on because it is how it is, doubt it will change, but when you look at the current system, it does seem a little unfair. Having said that, I'm sure a tax based on mileage/emissions would have it's negatives too...
Sir_Dave
ClioSport Trader
E36 328
Lol and then suddenly everyone in the uk would be saying 'I only do 20 miles a year guv, honest!' how would you reinforce that!?
Distance between MOT's?
Less than 60p a day for me to not have to get a bus?
I've absolutely no problem with that.
I've absolutely no problem with that.
Renault Clio RS182
It's just one of those things that we have to put up with unfortunatly. As said above, if you stop buying the paper/a chocolate bar everyday, it's paid for
