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Light scratches.
- Thread starter Joe R26
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I wonder put the products out of the window, chap. The simple fact is, AG is made for the masses, who will walk into Halfords and want that little bit more than "a bucket and sponge". Therefore, their product marketing and performance and costs are all relative to this audience.
There are products out there that are far superior, but either cost more, are hard to use or hard to find (I'm talking internet shopping, which to my father/grandfather is "hard to find").
Totally agree that different occasions and situations call for different methods and different suggestions. And I think that is where we are disagreeing.
SRP has no protection properties, from a detailers point of view, because we know what other products are out there, but it will be marketed as possessing them to Joe Bloggs stated above. That is simple fact, not opinion. If it did, EGP would have no market stand what so ever. Look at the product's title... Extra, Gloss and Protection. The three words that cover Joe Blogg's requirements
That little bit extra on SRP.If I worked in Halfords and the OP popped in and asked, I would point him in the direction of SRP as an all in one. Cheap, one process, done. But because I know more, and the OP has come into the detailing section asking specific questions like claying, waxing etc, I am trying to get the best products for his specific case
EGP adds more protection. Yes. But it can be a pig to use. But the people likely to buy this product won't be concerned with rubbing it off with an old cloth... which will cause swirls. But they won't know this.
I used SRP on it's own and loved the results. Then I used EGP when I was informed it would protect the car for longer. Both products are now rarely used (SRP on exhausts, if that) because I have learnt over the last 7 years what other products are out there and for what money/time sacrifices.
Again, totally agree, except for the latter part, but that's a different story... you don't just pick up a rotary. That, I might add, is how rotaries got such a bad name. It is not a difficult machine to use, but advice like "give it a whirl (nice punn
)" is just utter madness.RG #55 is fapping brilliant :star: But be wary of marketing. I will tell you that my advertising offers the best CTR and OR around... but it might not in some circumstances. Once you know someone's fears, you can sell anything
Lew and I are offering pretty much the same advice, just perhaps on different levels.
What we need to get to the bottom of, is how much time and money you want to spend? I could talk about snow foaming, paint cleansing and a quick detailing, but I feel that would be going over board, in both time, requirements for the results you want and budget
Your plan of action is good, some the tar spots on the car could be removed with some tar remover before claying to keep marking the paint down to a minimal. clay will remove them but a few of the thicker spots (if any) might marr the paint so just be gentle with no hard rubbing. Extra gloss would fit the bill nicely as your then combo'ing with the SRP. Providing your not that factuated with super beeding and sheeting properties all the time, you will be happy with the result.
Hehe, don't mention beading or sheeting, you'll have a few more questions
Only joking OP You can very easily pick up the Megs Quick Clay Kit in Halfords - circa £20 and has all the kit required.
I would agree.
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Agreed. Unless the car has had a recent spray and you have overspray.
Does Tardis count as washing?
Yes you can...what do you think a scouring pad is for?!!!
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No tardis will take the tar off. You only have to look at your paint after claying to see it looking like glass, it takes so much crap off the paint. Weather you wash it everyday or not.
It's a twice the year at most job but if you're doing things right it's a vital part of deatiling a car imo.
You only have to look at your paint after claying to see it looking like glass, it takes so much crap off the paint. Weather you wash it everyday or not.It's a twice the year at most job but if you're doing things right it's a vital part of deatiling a car imo.
Why should it be out the window? you have a budget as much as anybody else has. If you was to wash, clay, wash, SRP then EGP, why would it be wrong? If you think SRP is no longer suitable for your needs then dont add it into the detail. That was a little advice instead of polishing the full car by hand. Polish the visible scratches by hand and then use something else to do the full car and fill very fine swirls. Poorboys blackhole, Ez Creme Glaze are both good products but myself for one would not use these as a masking product, only as a foundation or to enhance the look of a certain paint finish. If you didnt want to hide imperfections, polishing the full car by hand or possibly picking up a cheap rotary polisher between £30 - £40 and give it a whirl. Watch a few videos and guides and learn the basics.
Again, totally agree, except for the latter part, but that's a different story... you don't just pick up a rotary. That, I might add, is how rotaries got such a bad name. It is not a difficult machine to use, but advice like "give it a whirl (nice punn
)" is just utter madness.Lol, did you miss the last sentence off the end? I clearly said to look up videos and guides to learn the basics. :slap: If i told him to just buy one and use it then i guess i would get a bad name like the rotary used to
If things are used properley then they will perform how they should UNLESS its been used incorrectly or tested by a large amount of peeps who think its garbage. I dont mind the banter at all mate, tbh we both know that we will use different methods, products and give other forms of advice. He wanted to use what he had but also buy something cheap to go with it, hence why i said the combo would be a cheap treat. As you correctively said, other products for that little bit more cash can give so much more better result, yet nowadays the better the product, the less you get, lol. Imagine some people who would take advice, yet refuse to buy womens cotton facial pads to apply nano stuff because in a way i used to be embarrassed buying them!! :rofl:
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JD where are you based mate? - I am sure I have met you at a Lincoln meet in the past - could be wrong though.
Your advice is good.
Money not too much of an object to me when it comes to products - so I have bought based on recommendation and then made up my own mind as to whether I like them or not.
Vics Concourse and RG#55 are decent waxes in the arsenal, like I say Jeffs Trigger = super sealant.
Products of choice which I'm using for the first time at the moment are the AutoSmart Duet shampoo and Clearkote Quikshine detailing spray - the latter I am very impressed with.
I bought my recent batch of Tardis and other bits from our AS rep at Bingham, Notts. Cheap as chips.:approve:
Your advice is good.
Money not too much of an object to me when it comes to products - so I have bought based on recommendation and then made up my own mind as to whether I like them or not.
Vics Concourse and RG#55 are decent waxes in the arsenal, like I say Jeffs Trigger = super sealant.
Products of choice which I'm using for the first time at the moment are the AutoSmart Duet shampoo and Clearkote Quikshine detailing spray - the latter I am very impressed with.
I bought my recent batch of Tardis and other bits from our AS rep at Bingham, Notts. Cheap as chips.:approve:
LY R26 #288
Have any of you tried this stuff? http://gtechniq.com/shop/3s-for-cars/polishing/p1-nanocomposite-polish/
Never tried any of gtec correcting products but only tried 2 of the finishing products which were good. This would seem to fit your bill perfectly as it looks like a one step product. Only problem i can see is that it says its needs pushing even with a rotary polisher so i would expect it to be a bit more challenging by hand? Maybe someone who has used it can give you a heads up. Apart from that, gtec stuff is good value for money so id give it a go :approve:. Lew
Based in the NW lad - can't remember meeting you... FCS?
I've heard some good things on these as well pal, what/which have you got?
Kev/Gally didn't like the P1, but I've had a quick play and quite like it, by hand. Yet to try it by machine. I won some in their photo competition on DW, along with some wheel sealant and glass products.
Which have you had Lew? I LOVE the C4. The C2 is going on the car after the next correction, where I'll be using P1 and their glass sealants and wheel sealant after a refurb.
The wolfs stuff im using is the shine and seal polish, the body wrap sealant and the nano wheel cleaner. Although the sealant is recommended to use on its own or after the shine and seal, i put 2 coats on top of the c-quartz ceramic kit and has been still beading 3 weeks on which i was impressed with. On the other wing i put the body wrap on its own and beads off that little faster so id say better as a stand alone. Still need to try the polish and then body wrap as the results are supposed to last longer. The wheel cleaner is very good but i diluted it 2:1 which i need to have a check up on as nothing is mentioned on the bottle. Used it on a rim that hadnt been washed for 3 months alongside another rim (bilberry 1:1), and the wolf out performed by miles. Least product used, very little aggitation plus leaves a little protection behind. The G-Techniq stuff ive used is the C2 and the C1 Crystal laquer that id say is very similar to aquartz. Next buy is the wolf glass and maybe the G1 as ive heard very good ratings on this too. You used G-tec's glass stuff yet?
I was just saying to Gally in another thread, I have the full glass kit from them, as it was part of my prize in their photo comp over on DW. But a; I've not had a chance to use it and b; suddenly thought that there is no point putting it on yet, as my glass is likely to be replaced in the start of this year as it's scratched to hell from 8 years of bad washing by Audi.
The paint was repairable - the glass is just a mission. £70 and I'll have a full set of new windows!
The paint was repairable - the glass is just a mission. £70 and I'll have a full set of new windows!
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