More Grunt

[missvavavoom]

i know i have already posted about this sort of thing before.. But i was wondering if there had been any advancements in exhaust tech in terms of making it louder without fitting a new exhaust. I will be looking at a new one within the year, but i have the itch to to do something to my clio now!

 

[JackJack]

Can't get more noise without changing it really other than making a hole in it but thats no good.

Could fit an induction kit to get a bit more "grunt"?

 

[missvavavoom]

Mmm, would that cause more wear and tear on the engine.

 

[Turkish]

A sports exhaust wont cause more wear on the engine, nor would a freer "breathing" induction kit wouldn't cause any alarming/concerning increase in engine wear.

 

[JackJack]

Buy a good quality kit and it will be ok.

 

[realnumber 1]

Just pull the air feed away from the side of the air box. Job done and free.

 

[missvavavoom]

surely that will leave my car dead...! I don't want to hurt my standard set up at all Mutley.

 

[realnumber 1]

No it wont, it's just an air feed lol. The air will still have to pass through the filter...

It just gives you more induction noise and sounds like it has a lot more grunt. Literally takes 1 min to do and try...

 

[missvavavoom]

I would need full direction for that me thinks. Does it affect MPG?

 

[realnumber 1]

Doesn't effect MPG/performance at all. Lift your bonnet and on the right next to the battery you will see the air box with the feed coming out of the right just infront of the battery. Squeeze the top and bottom (iirc) of said pipe as its kind of clipped in and pull it out. Then just put it to the side with some of it still over the hole to allow cold air to still get to it. You will see what I mean...
You could go do it now try it and be back in 10 a happy man lol.

 

[Turkish]

It'll make more noise but you end up drawing in heatsoaked air when you go pulling off cold air feeds which will effect mpg/performance however it won't be a massive change and whether it's noticeable will vary on the person driving as some people can't spot the difference that others might do.

 

[Fletcher]

Have you de-catted your exhaust yet?

 

[realnumber 1]

It'll make more noise but you end up drawing in heatsoaked air when you go pulling off cold air feeds which will effect mpg/performance however it won't be a massive change and whether it's noticeable will vary on the person driving as some people can't spot the difference that others might do.

I don't think heat soak is a problem with this method my self. You still have the other air feed attached and the one unplugged will be drawing enough cold air to the area which is away from most of the heat anyway.

 

[Turkish]

I'd still be more inclined to bin off the acoustic valve assembly first if I was in search of a bit more bark before disconnecting cold air feeds.

 

[realnumber 1]

Each to their own...

 

[JackJack]

Id do the acoustic valve first then take the caf off if you still want more noise.

 

[missvavavoom]

If i knew that induction kits didnt kill your engine, thats what i would go for. The above options are appreciated but sound really risky.

 

[Turkish]

Induction kits won't kill your engine. The options being mentioned will not result in some sort of catastrophic engine failure either. How much do you actually know about how an engine works and what is it you are concerned might happen as a result of modifying the inlet and exhaust system on the car?

 

[realnumber 1]

If i knew that induction kits didnt kill your engine, thats what i would go for. The above options are appreciated but sound really risky.

All air feeds do is feed (or if you prefer, direct) the flow of air to the filter. Simple as that! Open induction kits will and do suffer from heat soak but with both methods we've mentioned this is minimal if not nothing. Either way it WILL NOT do any more harm to the engine than keeping it as it is now.

 

[missvavavoom]

Well.. I have posted a similar thing a while back and someone said that they can prematurely age an engine. So any information has been gleemed from this forum. I almost bought a volvo s40 sport which said it hadnt been modified and then a quick search on google showed me that the guy was lying and that a induction kit had been used. After a coversation with a mate of mine who is a mechanic he suggested also that they can have a wear on
an engine. My point being that, why lie about a part nd say you havent fiddled with something if it doesnt have a detremental effect on an engine.

 

[missvavavoom]

Anyway, what noise do they make? If any? And what makes are the best? Etc.

 

[Turkish]

Because most uniformed people are alarmed by cars which have been modified. Others simply avoid modded cars because they worry some weapon with a spanner has been tinkering himself. This is fairly common and having seen some of the questions asked on the forum by people looking to undertake moderately difficult work themselves they make it abundantly clear that they are only fit to fill the washer bottle.

Your mechanic friend talking about damage from induction kits is both right and wrong. The induction kits are designed to increase airflow, more air into an engine which can = better throttle response and power. The trade off is less thorough filtration of that air entering the engine. It just means there is a slight increase in the small particles of debris that will enter the engine. None will be big enough to cause the engine to blow up etc and tbh unless you were living in an area with a lot of sand kicking about the increase of particulate would not be enough to create any significant increased wear on the engine internals.

 

[realnumber 1]

Well.. I have posted a similar thing a while back and someone said that they can prematurely age an engine. So any information has been gleemed from this forum. I almost bought a volvo s40 sport which said it hadnt been modified and then a quick search on google showed me that the guy was lying and that a induction kit had been used. After a coversation with a mate of mine who is a mechanic he suggested also that they can have a wear on
an engine. My point being that, why lie about a part nd say you havent fiddled with something if it doesnt have a detremental effect on an engine.

Have a re-read of the thread and have a think about what we are saying... All you are doing is changing the flow/source of the same air that is getting to your standard filter. Nothing has changed as such, it's still just the same fresh air. With some of the after market induction kits then the quaility of the filter might have an effect on wear but not if you get a decent one. But then I don't see the point when what we have said will probably be better...

 

[Turkish]

yup ^^ disconnecting the cold air feed or removing the acoustic valve will not be changing/removing the air filter in the car so air entering the engine is still subject to the same level of filtration that it is with the feed connected or valve fitted.

 

[missvavavoom]

I have and thanks, although i did think that a forum was meant to advise , i was not aware i had to know any information prior to owning a car or joining clio sport regarding air intake thus my line of questioning. :quiet:

 

[Gray]

FLOL at this thread!!!!!

 

[missvavavoom]

i know its great. Tired now.

 

[realnumber 1]

I have and thanks, although i did think that a forum was meant to advise , i was not aware i had to know any information prior to owning a car or joining clio sport regarding air intake thus my line of questioning. :quiet:

PMSL, wtf do you think we have said if it's not advice:S?

 

[ekaJ]

Do not touch the engine, it will blow up.

 

[missvavavoom]

Its advise but with a sharp edge. How much do i know of engines?.... Come on.. surely this figures from me begin on here?

 

[realnumber 1]

Its advise but with a sharp edge. How much do i know of engines?.... Come on.. surely this figures from me begin on here?

Not sharp until you started been funny with us. We answered your same question how many times? You could have gone out and done my suggestion come back and commented on your thoughts by now...

 

[Turkish]

Sharp edge if you're taking it the wrong way. I asked not to be sarcastic or belittle you but there's no point in getting uber technical on you if you have very basic level of understanding. Likewise if you know a fair amount if I put it in laymans terms you'd accuse me of being a sexist pig and assuming as you're a girl you know nothing. I was just trying to ask what you know so I could give you a response that would make sense that's all.

Can't win, lol

 

[missvavavoom]

Ah well you see.... your first mistake their is thinking i am a girl and not in-fact a man who cannot be bothered to change the picture or account name from his girlfriends account. Therefore you can be little me for being a "man" who knows nothing. I wasn't being funny gents, i am very dubious of advice as i recently went to a renault garage that charged me in the excess of £350 to change something that they ensured me needed changing which in fact didn't. I just merely read the post from Turkish asking if i knew about engines and took it as a jab. But yes i am a man who knows much but doesn't want to go out into the dark to break something to come back on here to have someone else say.... "oh no, you don't want to do that".

I believe this will appease our situation.

Amando iannuci sketch.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5NjcZRbPrk

 

[missvavavoom]

As you can see, a place like this can make you feel like this poor guy.

 

[Turkish]

What did they change that didn't need replacing and how did you subsequently discover it had been replaced needlessly?

In terms of the "more grunt" as we've said you're looking at exhaust and/or induction mods if you A don't want to spend a s**tload of cash and B just want to make the car sound a bit more manly. If you're worried about hassles with MOT's or lights up on the dash stick to a cat back system rather than a decat. Something like a Yozzasport. There will be clips up in the Clio media and if you search clio 182 + various different exhaust names on youtube too if you want to get an idea of what they sound like.

We're not trying to be rude or belittle you, but at the same time you're a little ambiguous with the request so maybe outline budget, what you're looking to achieve, any concerns you've got about mods you're considering and people will try and direct the answer to tell you what you want to know.

Adding that you're dubious of advice almost implies we can't win either if you're going to receive anything said with a certain amount of distrust.

 

[ForceIndia]

I am confuse.

 

[missvavavoom]

Last christmas day my car stuck at 3000 revs on the Mway. They took it in and replaced something now that i cannot remember which was pretty expensive and took my clio away for 1.5 weeks. It turned out to be the peddle, and i found out this through the problem repeating and then coming on here and some one diagnosing it. Sorry if i seemed sharp. Surely my you tube clip has put a smile on your face?

 

[Daz.]

Wtf is this thread about!?! flol!

I suggest you leave the car as it is if unclipping a hose which you have been told several times is perfectly safe and won't damage your engine is too much for you!

 

[realnumber 1]

For your reference this is how mine sounds with the feed removed and a fairly standard sounding stainless cat back.

http://s271.photobucket.com/albums/...alnumber1/?action=view&current=SUNP0008-1.mp4

 

[missvavavoom]

Cheers realnumber1 that sound quite tasty. There are some awesome sounding induction kits on you tube. Sorry about earlier fellas i thought earlier that we were messing around.