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hey up dan_16v - eye long time no speak, still kicking around on these forums 
was hard to compair as the 200 was behind me with Jeremy Townsend driving - once he was in front the gap he initally pulled stayed the same bar one corner where i could close - I recon if it had been in the afternoon once i had got upto pace with the circuit and i have been on my own like him it would of been close. jeremy took me out in mine and the 200 and i learnt alot from him. Really IMPROVED MY DRIVING in the afternoon!
Thanks once again Jeremy. Hope you enjoyed your drive in my old timer.
If im honest - bar one orange megane 225 and a silver t/b'ed 172 no other cars pulled away from me on the straights. Not bad for a 1.8!
was hard to compair as the 200 was behind me with Jeremy Townsend driving - once he was in front the gap he initally pulled stayed the same bar one corner where i could close - I recon if it had been in the afternoon once i had got upto pace with the circuit and i have been on my own like him it would of been close. jeremy took me out in mine and the 200 and i learnt alot from him. Really IMPROVED MY DRIVING in the afternoon!
Thanks once again Jeremy. Hope you enjoyed your drive in my old timer.
If im honest - bar one orange megane 225 and a silver t/b'ed 172 no other cars pulled away from me on the straights. Not bad for a 1.8!
A car
Nice to see someone looking after their cup car and not ripping things out and adding things to it.
This is by far the best cup car because its original. Ive never understood people who would want to take on of these and add a 2 litre engine to it. If your going to do that might as well buy a williams and just bolt in a cage.
As everyone else ruins their cups, this one will become worth a lot more. Id say its gone up a fair bit in value since you bought it. I have one of the orgininal cup cars that was used in rallying and pretty much all the bits bar the rear axel have been damaged and replaced including the shell, cage and engine. Bit of a shame, as id like to own a nice original one.
This is by far the best cup car because its original. Ive never understood people who would want to take on of these and add a 2 litre engine to it. If your going to do that might as well buy a williams and just bolt in a cage.
As everyone else ruins their cups, this one will become worth a lot more. Id say its gone up a fair bit in value since you bought it. I have one of the orgininal cup cars that was used in rallying and pretty much all the bits bar the rear axel have been damaged and replaced including the shell, cage and engine. Bit of a shame, as id like to own a nice original one.
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NORTHY’S 1993 ELF OILS UK RENAULT CLIO CUP RACE CAR
Shell
1991 Renaultsport Williams shell.
Blanking plates welded into the floor to remove rubber bungs.
Etruscan Red with 1993 specification racing stickers and original sponsors decals
Engine
'Blueprinted' (lightened internals) FP7 1.8 16v approx 150bhp, upgraded 'Cup' ECU (8000rpm), Open induction kit
Regulation Green Cotton air Filter
Full Devil racing straight through exhaust system
Transmission
JB3 Gearbox
Uprated Clutch
Cup Solid Dogbone mount
BB tuning short throw gear lever
Petrol tank
Reserve fuel tank removed
Tank breather relocated
Brakes
Standard all around
Goodridge braided brake lines
Brake cooling ducts and scoops fed from front bumper
Suspension
Front: Williams track with Decarbon Race Shocks, Dampers & Race springs.
4 degrees fixed negative front camber.
Rear: Trailing arms, racing 4-transverse torsion bars, telescopic hydraulic shock absorbers and anti-roll bar
Steering
Clio Cup manual steering and quick rack
Renaultsport power steering idle wheel (removal kit)
Exterior
Lightened Glass
Manual wing mirrors
Headlight blanks with oil catch tank on drivers side
Under body Metal guards to protect fuel lines
Interior
1 x Sparco Bucket Seat (extra seat fitted for trackdays)
Sabelt 4 point quick release Harness
Yellow 8 point Devil roll Cage with MSA certificate
Lifeline Fire extinguisher plumbed into engine bay & c**kpit area.
Emergency exterior engine cut off and extinguisher release fitted into radio aperture
Wheels & Tyres
Lightweight Magnesium CUP Speedline alloys
Michelin S9B racing Slicks
Michelin MXV4 wets
Weight approx 850kg
Shell
1991 Renaultsport Williams shell.
Blanking plates welded into the floor to remove rubber bungs.
Etruscan Red with 1993 specification racing stickers and original sponsors decals
Engine
'Blueprinted' (lightened internals) FP7 1.8 16v approx 150bhp, upgraded 'Cup' ECU (8000rpm), Open induction kit
Regulation Green Cotton air Filter
Full Devil racing straight through exhaust system
Transmission
JB3 Gearbox
Uprated Clutch
Cup Solid Dogbone mount
BB tuning short throw gear lever
Petrol tank
Reserve fuel tank removed
Tank breather relocated
Brakes
Standard all around
Goodridge braided brake lines
Brake cooling ducts and scoops fed from front bumper
Suspension
Front: Williams track with Decarbon Race Shocks, Dampers & Race springs.
4 degrees fixed negative front camber.
Rear: Trailing arms, racing 4-transverse torsion bars, telescopic hydraulic shock absorbers and anti-roll bar
Steering
Clio Cup manual steering and quick rack
Renaultsport power steering idle wheel (removal kit)
Exterior
Lightened Glass
Manual wing mirrors
Headlight blanks with oil catch tank on drivers side
Under body Metal guards to protect fuel lines
Interior
1 x Sparco Bucket Seat (extra seat fitted for trackdays)
Sabelt 4 point quick release Harness
Yellow 8 point Devil roll Cage with MSA certificate
Lifeline Fire extinguisher plumbed into engine bay & c**kpit area.
Emergency exterior engine cut off and extinguisher release fitted into radio aperture
Wheels & Tyres
Lightweight Magnesium CUP Speedline alloys
Michelin S9B racing Slicks
Michelin MXV4 wets
Weight approx 850kg
A car
From reading the french williams site, im pretty sure the gearboxes were not standard JB3 boxes. They had at least uprated forlks. However, im not sure if this is just the french cars.
The front shocks are gas shocks as opposed to the williams front oil shocks. this gives a much better damping ability. They also run a fair bit of negative camber.
The 1.8 was tuned to 150 bhp as opposed to the 135 of the road cars. This was mainly though ecu changes and the blue printing of the engine, which means they can reliably rev higher.
The cage stiffens them up nicely as the shells on the mk1 are rubbish. This then allows them to run slicks and keep better suspension geometry when cornering.
Interestingly the french cars ran side exit exhausts and steel wheels. The uk cars ran a back box and williams alloys.
The front shocks are gas shocks as opposed to the williams front oil shocks. this gives a much better damping ability. They also run a fair bit of negative camber.
The 1.8 was tuned to 150 bhp as opposed to the 135 of the road cars. This was mainly though ecu changes and the blue printing of the engine, which means they can reliably rev higher.
The cage stiffens them up nicely as the shells on the mk1 are rubbish. This then allows them to run slicks and keep better suspension geometry when cornering.
Interestingly the french cars ran side exit exhausts and steel wheels. The uk cars ran a back box and williams alloys.
A car
There is a lot of information on www.clio-williams.net. I can read french which helps though.
Very nice pictures and a very nice cup car.
Awesome to see an old-school racer still going strong. :approve:
Do you rev your engine up to 8000rpm?
I suppose having a blueprinted engine helps, but I always thought that the standard valve springs and lifters didn't really like being pushed beyond 7500ish...
Awesome to see an old-school racer still going strong. :approve:
Do you rev your engine up to 8000rpm?
I suppose having a blueprinted engine helps, but I always thought that the standard valve springs and lifters didn't really like being pushed beyond 7500ish...
A car
Ill have a search layter, a lot of the info is in the for sale section, as there were a few cups for sale. I beieve also the guy with the white 16 with group a wheels also has a 'cup' gear box.
Fletcher
ClioSport Club Member
Looks good!
172 clio ph1
Lovely photos. I really do need to get my car track side soon.
I really do need to get my car track side soon.
i want your car
the spec of the rear suspension, how does this differ from the standard valver setup? are they stiffer tortion bars or something? if so, is there another car that you can get the uprated items off (such as the 19 or something?)
last question, can you get them headlight covers/replacements from anywhere?
good pics, love the car.
the spec of the rear suspension, how does this differ from the standard valver setup? are they stiffer tortion bars or something? if so, is there another car that you can get the uprated items off (such as the 19 or something?)
last question, can you get them headlight covers/replacements from anywhere?
good pics, love the car.
