Network Switches.

[cava83]

3 offices.

Currently have 10/100 network.

Have a mixture of Switches and Hubs (ew)

CAT 5E in place.

What would be your higher priority?

Implement layer 3 switches and stay on 10/100

Implement advanced managed switches and move to 10/100/1000

Only one site has a local server were large documents are placed.

Please discuss.

 

[McBunny]

well all depends on traffic really but if you only have 1 server there isnt going to be that much really

but layer 4 10/100/1000 ftw

 

[young_lew]

managed switches with 10/100 connections

whats the space between the offices?

 

[cava83]

Netgear kit will suffice.

Layer 3 10/100 switch is £290 + VAT

Layer 3 10/100/1000 is around £1500 + VAT


50 units in this office.

Cabling length no more than 50 metres.

That's £1200 + VAT difference :s

Trying to simply upgrade kit and increase performance.

I suppose I can setup different VLANS.

Current switches are managed. Not layer 3.

 

[cava83]

We have 4 servers, need 10/100/1000 ports.

Then need 12 desktops to have 10/100/1000 connections, intensive network apps.

I think this would be an ok solution.

GSM7324EU - for servers and desktops with 10/100/1000.
FSM7352S - for the rest.

Stacked.

For Reference;

http://www.netgear.com/upload/secon...dswitches/layer3-managed_comparison_chart.pdf

OR

What are these like ?

http://www.netgear.com/Products/Switches/AdvancedSmartSwitches.aspx

 

[Daz]

They're Netgear - therefore, rubbish in a corporate environment.

Get some HP Procurve or Cisco stuff on the go.

Procurve is cheaper than Cisco, and it's pretty solid. Good kit.

 

[young_lew]

We run Procurve here and they're spot on

Cisco can be expensive though and unless you're doing something uber complexed it probably isn't worth the extra expense

 

[McBunny]

i run only procurve and cisco

im just upgrading everyone to gig to the desktop with layer 4 switches about 180 users

 

[Daz]

i run only procurve and cisco

Yep, it's the only way really.

Procurve is very very good - especially for the money.

 

[cava83]

What's wrong with the netgears, good price for the kit.

Will have a look at the procurve.

 

[David]

cisco ftw here.

 

[McBunny]

What's wrong with the netgears, good price for the kit.

Will have a look at the procurve.

netgear stuff really isnt enterprise class its good but its not for the serious folk

 

[Dafthead]

Nothing but Cisco for me, But I can pretty much spend what I want if I can justify it

 

[Mike_182]

Got some ProCurve 24-port switches going spare kid... Depends what you're running and where but remember what speed your WAN links are and that an 'intensive network app' on a client machine shouldn't use much more than a solid 10-meg connection otherwise you need to be looking at 4Gb minimum to the servers... The bigger the pipe to the clients the more they can use = the more you need to give the shared resources.

 

[sn00p]

They're Netgear - therefore, rubbish in a corporate environment.

Or just rubbish generally!

Crap. Crap. Crap. Crap. Crap.

Did I mention their stuff is crap?

 

[Mike_182]

They're Netgear - therefore, rubbish in a corporate environment.

Or just rubbish generally!

Crap. Crap. Crap. Crap. Crap.

Did I mention their stuff is crap?

Oh, and if anyone tells you Nortel stuff doesn't break, beat them with a large stick. Had someone tell me that for 6 months and when I looked at the problems we were having, it was due to the switches. They had broken, just nobody was looking after them.

 

[Daz]

What's wrong with the netgears, good price for the kit.

It's cheap you mean?
The cheap part is the problem.. to be cheap, they have to be even cheaper to make.

 

[McBunny]

my nortel cs1000 pbx is a pile o shite lol

 

[sn00p]

Or just rubbish generally!

Crap. Crap. Crap. Crap. Crap.

Did I mention their stuff is crap?

Oh, and if anyone tells you Nortel stuff doesn't break, beat them with a large stick. Had someone tell me that for 6 months and when I looked at the problems we were having, it was due to the switches. They had broken, just nobody was looking after them.

I agree. Our old phone system was nortel. Complete and utter crap.

I replaced it with asterisk. Far better & free. I almost pissed myself when the company that rented some of our building bought a nortel exchange!

 

[sn00p]

What's wrong with the netgears, good price for the kit.

It's cheap you mean?
The cheap part is the problem.. to be cheap, they have to be even cheaper to make.

lol.

I've got a netgear switch at work, anytime I go near it it, it results in me spending half an hour playing the rather fun game "lets find a port which hasn't fucked itself".

 

[Daz]

It's cheap you mean?
The cheap part is the problem.. to be cheap, they have to be even cheaper to make.

lol.

I've got a netgear switch at work, anytime I go near it it, it results in me spending half an hour playing the rather fun game "lets find a port which hasn't f**ked itself".

Yea.. and if you add all those half hours up, bill it against your time/cost, you could have bought a full on ProCurve Edge Switch Chassis full of Gigabit modules..

 

[sn00p]

lol.

I've got a netgear switch at work, anytime I go near it it, it results in me spending half an hour playing the rather fun game "lets find a port which hasn't f**ked itself".

Yea.. and if you add all those half hours up, bill it against your time/cost, you could have bought a full on ProCurve Edge Switch Chassis full of Gigabit modules..

No need. I swapped some magic beans for a "brown generic cheap piece 'o s**t switch" which is far more reliable than the netgear ever has been! Probably only cost £20!

Bargain.

 

[The Hoff]

HP/Cisco is what dominates our server rooms.

Just implementing a Mittel VOIP system with Corebridge for 145k, it's the b****cks really. Went to Tower42 to meet with Cisco 2 weeks ago, tbh I was really disappointed with their half baked efforts at VOIP.

Had 3com Officeconnect at my old place though to be fair and that was rock steady aswell.

 

[bully]

We use Cisco in our part of our IT and comms network.

Oh and Nortel tel sytems were one of the most reliable ever. Carrier grade stuff.

Mitel Voip?

Good kit, have worked extensively with Mitel kit and trained at their factory....cant go wrong.

Im in France at the mo training on our next upgrade to some Nortel kit, looks dated but rock solid, as is 99% of their kit.

Dont listen to the babbage on here ;-)