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PC World Repair lol



sbridgey

ClioSport Club Member
  disco 4, 182, Meglio
My acres have all used foxcon boards so they are obviously not as bad as everyone thinks!
 

Don

  182 & LY Clio 220 ed
I was pricing up a new pc a while ago and wanted an I5 processor...saw an acer for £450 and thought I might be able to transfer my hdds across....asked their Acer 'specialist' and asked how many Sata connections the mobo had...he said 1 (which seems strange when there was a dvd drive and a hdd...so asked if he could open it up so I could have a look....no chance.

Bought my own elsewhere and built it myself, but wanted a new case...went to local pc world and asked if they had any pc cases....he took me to the laptop bags....said it all to me.

I know there are some intelligent people who work there, but the fucktards seem to outnumber them by a fair margin.

Its even worse now that they are trying to merge pcw and currys in same buildings, so all the staff have to know more stuff which saves money, but doesnt increase the customer experience if the customer doesnt have a clue what they are after.
 

Martin_172

ClioSport Club Member
i dont go near the place, if i cant afford to wait for something to come online i go to a tesco extra, the staff dont pretend to know what they are taking about, they dont try to sell you anything you walk in, point to one, pay for it, walk out, done!
 

Heez

ClioSport Club Member
  Superleggera'd Bean
Bought my own elsewhere and built it myself, but wanted a new case...went to local pc world and asked if they had any pc cases....he took me to the laptop bags....said it all to me.

If you walked in and asked I need a computer case, I would of went to the laptop bags as well.

You have to remember most of the staff (be it compentent or just plain stupid) deal with stupid customers who wouldn't know the difference between rice pudding and fried rice so they have to address each customer with the same brush of stupidity.
 
  SEAT Ibiza SC FR
PC World are waff. I wouldn't even buy a Mac from there.

We're a Mac only household. f**k Windows PCs, f**k them right in their ugly and buggy arses.
 
  Listerine & Poledo
didnt windows stop being buggy since windows xp or am i missing something lol
It does have bugs, it's a fact of life.
but that's only because more than a select bunch of turtle-neck self-pleasurers are allowed to write for it.

I might get a macbook pro mini Xl (or whatever it is) than install XP Pro on it.
 
  DCi
I bought a laptop from PC world and when he started trying to sell me stuff I said dont worry I have a real IT job I'll be fine. Bit rude but I get a bit mardy when people insist on selling me things I already declined.


A chap at my work used to be a store manager and he said there was so much stress because you had to go on conference calls where they shouted at you for not selling enough anti virus programs with the PC's - he said in his opinion he felt the computers themselves were fairly competitive compared to other places, it's just all the after sales/extra warranty/anti virus that people tend not to like.


I agree, I bought my laptop for the same price as the internet from PC world, just because I wanted it that day and not have to wait for delivery- I figured I'm quite happy to tell sales people to jog on so I don't mind going in there.
 
Never had a problem with Windows XP being buggy to be honest ive had my fair share of experience on it doing different things...

From graphic design, 3d modelling and animation

To programming games, web editing, video editing.

Windows just rules all it's the original and THE best imho

(Vista + 7 are sh*t though)
 

MarkCup

ClioSport Club Member
I've never had a problem with PC World.

My current branded laptop came from them, purely because no other retailer (internet or otherwise) could offer the same spec for anywhere near the same price at the time.

I went in last year on the day of the Royal wedding, was deadly quiet, had staff running all around as I made up my mind.

Not once did any one of them even suggest I should buy extras, probably because I came across as having an ounce of intelligence when it comes to PCs. If they had I'd have politely declined.

As Goodj says, it wouldn't have been inappropriate in any way if they had offered me things. To blindly pay for them because you know nothing about the product you're trying to buy is a pretty retarded way to shop tbh.

Caveat emptor and all that.
 

KDF

  Audi TT Stronic
Oh, and have you got enough DVD's to do a system back-up?

Fail, who uses optical media for backups.. DVD 1 of 40.. it's like installing windows 3.1.. floppy 1 of 25 all over again.

Also decent anti-virus is an oxymoron,

Fail

Dell suck

Fail

DELL basically just sells to the lowest bidder for their major components, in this case Foxcon.
I used to stress test all this crap for bread and butter, so if I say something is s**t, it normally is ;)

How long ago was that ? Don't think Dell use Foxcon anymore, certainly not any any of the models I have worked on.

My acres have all used foxcon boards so they are obviously not as bad as everyone thinks!

No, they still are.

Never had a problem with their equipment. I am an Apple fanboy now so don't really care. x

WIN, on both counts.

didnt windows stop being buggy since windows xp or am i missing something lol

Nope, Windows XP was okay and most of the problems were down to third party software developers, but their failure to protect the kernel from third party fails was an epic mistake.

Windows just rules all it's the original and THE best imho

(Vista + 7 are sh*t though)

Epic fail on your first statement.
Fail on your second, Vista was s**te but 7 is their best OS to date.


I build my own computers.

WIN !
 

KDF

  Audi TT Stronic
They still use them, yes. So not sure what you've been working on

Well, leaving server products out of it:

Pretty much every model of laptop from Inspiron 100L's to 110's right the way to D series and their current Latitude E6520's (which happens to be what i'm using now) and pretty much every desktop model from Optiplex GX170L's to their current Optiplex 990's... but that aside, you didn't answer my question as to how long ago it was you worked on stress testing these foxcon boards ?
 
  Evo 5 RS
Then you should probably know this already, or else you're either thick or blind.


not that it matters, but probably about 4 years ago.
 

KDF

  Audi TT Stronic
Ok Mr Serious. lol

I didn't say they didn't use them. I actually said in my original post "They aren't using Foxcon boards anymore."

 
Epic fail on your first statement.
Fail on your second, Vista was s**te but 7 is their best OS to date.

We all have our opinions,

Windows 7 yes was better than vista.. No to being better than XP

once again personal opinion. The fact they changed everything in the newer editions just for looks (hardly functionality) as now you have to go through like 600 menus to just change the desktop background.

I prefer good old

Right Click > Properties > Background tab

Also from this you can change resolutions, screensavers, colours and all that. Where as in Vista and 7 you have to go through different menu's for each.

Wast of Developer time...

All opinion though

Nick
 

KDF

  Audi TT Stronic
There is a lot more changed than just looks, it's actually quite different to Vista and other previous incarnations of Windows.

By far the best feature is.. tap start button (on keyboard) type a bit of what you want press enter, job done.

Of course, I don't use Windows if I can help it! and my linux distro's have had this feature for a while ;)
 
There is a lot more changed than just looks, it's actually quite different to Vista and other previous incarnations of Windows.

By far the best feature is.. tap start button (on keyboard) type a bit of what you want press enter, job done.

Of course, I don't use Windows if I can help it! and my linux distro's have had this feature for a while ;)

Hands up that is one amazing feature it has lol
 
Nope, Windows XP was okay and most of the problems were down to third party software developers, but their failure to protect the kernel from third party fails was an epic mistake.
!
I wouldn't call it an epic mistake. If 3rd party drivers were separated from the kernel they would still need to run somewhere. If you moved the file system outside the kernel and loaded up a number of dodgy filter drivers (Antivirus etc) any issue in these drivers would still take out the file system which is going to be pretty hard to recover from. Theres also perfomance benefits from running Windows in this way.
 
  BMW F31
Bit harsh, they are alright to buy from if the price is right. After all its all the same in the box
+1

It doesn't matter whether it comes from them or another company online, if they can beat the price of anyone else, then I'll go there. you don't have to be swayed by their usual sales technique! just go in, buy your kit and leave! simples!
 
  2.2 bar shed.
Got my NAS from there. Got it cheap and it does the job it says. Wouldn't trust them to organise a piss up in a brewery though tbh.
 

Martin_172

ClioSport Club Member
my old workhorse Thinkpad T43 runs Windows 7 ultimate just as well as it ran its previous Windows XP pro, i do like how simple XP is to use, only because i spent years working with it daily and ive honestly never had a proper in depth play with win 7, i just turn it on, open IE9 and go on the internet, thats all i do lol! but i was surpized how well it runs on older systems even with all the bells and whistles enabled as this does at the moment
 

Heez

ClioSport Club Member
  Superleggera'd Bean
We all have our opinions,

Windows 7 yes was better than vista.. No to being better than XP

once again personal opinion. The fact they changed everything in the newer editions just for looks (hardly functionality) as now you have to go through like 600 menus to just change the desktop background.

I prefer good old

Right Click > Properties > Background tab

Also from this you can change resolutions, screensavers, colours and all that. Where as in Vista and 7 you have to go through different menu's for each.

Wast of Developer time...

All opinion though

Nick

Right Click>Personalize>Desktop Background ;)
 
I bought a laptop from PC world and when he started trying to sell me stuff I said dont worry I have a real IT job I'll be fine. Bit rude but I get a bit mardy when people insist on selling me things I already declined.


A chap at my work used to be a store manager and he said there was so much stress because you had to go on conference calls where they shouted at you for not selling enough anti virus programs with the PC's - he said in his opinion he felt the computers themselves were fairly competitive compared to other places, it's just all the after sales/extra warranty/anti virus that people tend not to like.


I agree, I bought my laptop for the same price as the internet from PC world, just because I wanted it that day and not have to wait for delivery- I figured I'm quite happy to tell sales people to jog on so I don't mind going in there.


This is why you get flogged stuff. Its not the actual stores fault. Its the way the company works. Rather than being judged on how much they make, its all done on area league tables on how many add ons you sell. Therefore they're going to do anything possible to sell you the extra stuff. If they don't they're not doing their job. Its just down to you whether to accept them or not. Not hard.
 

KDF

  Audi TT Stronic
windows 7 and vista are very closely related

7 is Vista.. with clean, optimised code. And with Vista having an estimated 50 million lines of code, it's quite different really. Coincidently, despite all the new features in 7 it is rumoured to have less lines of code over Vista due to the optimasation of the code.

Hands up that is one amazing feature it has lol

Well obviously it's not the only new features lol, but it's the one that makes the biggest difference to me when used for personal use, that and split screen window snapping ! :D , for enterprise usage there are a lot of improvements in system management etc.

I wouldn't call it an epic mistake. If 3rd party drivers were separated from the kernel they would still need to run somewhere. If you moved the file system outside the kernel and loaded up a number of dodgy filter drivers (Antivirus etc) any issue in these drivers would still take out the file system which is going to be pretty hard to recover from. Theres also perfomance benefits from running Windows in this way.

No Kernel Patch Protection = fail IMO and was an oversight on MS's behalf. Thankfully they almost got it right this time round.

What don't you like about Windows 7 as an admin?

Ye, I'm curious about this too. Other than UAC and some other issues it's a massive improvement. Core things that were missing are now in place e.g. group policy pre-approved hardware lists
 
No Kernel Patch Protection = fail IMO and was an oversight on MS's behalf. Thankfully they almost got it right this time round.
Ah ok, agree, but thats not going to stop 3rd party drivers that end up corrupting memory pools, stack overflows etc. Things are getting better but with many new devices appearing for PCs that means new drivers and new vendors making the same coding mistakes.
 
7 is Vista.. with clean, optimised code. And with Vista having an estimated 50 million lines of code, it's quite different really. Coincidently, despite all the new features in 7 it is rumoured to have less lines of code over Vista due to the optimasation of the code.
Pretty much spot on. What lots of people don't realise is from a O/S POV they aren't that different. The problem with Vista is it was shipped with a load of stuff that added to its overall resource footprint which meant its performance suffered as a consequence. I've worked for Microsoft for 8 years in support now and probably the most frustrating thing for me when discussing Windows is the negative stuff will always outweigh the great stuff. Mnay people will dismiss Vista without ever trying it.
 
  DCi
What don't you like about Windows 7 as an admin?
Not used it a lot as an admin certainly not in a domain only as a home user. Just don't like how they have rearranged all the network config pages on control panel tbh


Whenever I want to set my own ip I always forget where to go :eek:
 


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