Penalty for De-Cat

[George16v]

Does anyone know what the penalty is for having a de-cat fitted or is it a 14dat warning to have it put right?

 

[bambam1]

rectification notice, but only if the car fails an emissions test, otherwise they cant tell you to remove it

it must be unroadworthy for the police to issue a rectification notice

de-cats are not illegal

 

[George16v]

Really? Why does everyone always say they then? Confused now mate

 

[Ian_182]

Not having a cat on your car is illegal and if the cops find you havent got one they are entitled to fine you and/or take you to court

It happened to my mate and he got done by one of those roadside emisions tests,unlucky or what

ian

 

[Lunner]

NO, not having a cat is perfectly legal.

What is illegial is failing the emissions test, some cars WILL pass with no cats on, but only a few

 

[_Tom]

I was told by a policeman not long ago that they are not illegal.

 

[Clart]

my car passed with the decat on.

 

[Lunner]

Mine failed wiht teh cat on, then i got a differnt MOT tester and it passed

 

[DAVE_RSi]

my car will pass with the de-cat

u cant just say de-cats are illegal as some cars were not made with a cat and the chances of the police knowing what cars and what years are very slim tbh

 

[George16v]

Quote: Originally posted by Clart on 06 December 2004

my car passed with the decat on.

What car do you have mate.

I have a mk1 172 so think it will be obvious to the Police that I am supposed to have one. Just have to make suyre they dont catch me lol

 

[George16v]

The de-cat is basically an hollow pipe yeah?

 

[George16v]

I ask because my Zorst is bloddy loud now with a Cat on! It is a 4" Scorpion System and I get Burbles etc when on deceleration at the mo. Am thinking they may stop me because it will be so f**king loud lol..

 

[McBunny]

right the law states you dont have to have a cat but the car must be road worthy (mot) but all cars post 91 must be made with a cat in the exhaust system

 

[McBunny]

so in a word having a decat isnt illegal but been un roadworthy is

 

[Smokey]

^^^^^^^^Ditto - CAT must be fitted if newer then a J Plate

 

[McBunny]

must be fitted at manufacture not when on the road tho

so in a word decats on a brand new car not illegal

 

[Tom]

yup.

the only penalty is flames.

 

[George16v]

So basically your saying that on my car it is illegal

 

[McBunny]

no im saying no car has to have a cat apart from when its made there is no law that states your car always has to have a cat it just has to have one when its sold basically

 

[bambam1]

Quote: Originally posted by George16v on 06 December 2004
So basically your saying that on my car it is illegal

no

its only illegal if the emissions dont meet the guidelines, therefore the car becomes unroadworthy

decats are 100% legal to own, fit, and use, so long as the car is still roadworthy

 

[McBunny]

im gonna slap someone lol

 

[JayGTT]

Quote: Originally posted by George16v on 06 December 2004

So basically your saying that on my car it is illegal

only if you fail the emission test, DE-CATS are NOT illegal, if you can pass the emission test without a cat then your car is legal .


[Edited by JayGTT on 06 December 2004 at 4:46pm]

 

[George16v]

So I can have it fitted and then need to do an emissions test to see if it is legal or not!! lol

 

[bambam1]

nope, you fit it, then wait til the cops pull you over and give you a rectification notice, then re-fit the cat, take it to a mot station and have the test

with the correct certificate, go to police present documents and then re-fit the de-cat

 

[Clart]

get it fitted, then just wait till ur MOT to see if its ok. If not take if off

 

[bang]

I hear they will be made illegal in 2005, cant remember where though.

 

[McBunny]

they cant make it illegal to decat just make it law you have to have a cat fitted at all times but i doubt they would do this as most of the cars in the uk remain catted up anyway

 

[Day]

The law is an arse when you think about it...

Its possibly illegal for one day a year at the time of the MOT emmissions test.

The rest of the time it appears to be legal providing the vehicle is not sold at first registration without it.

Anyone else baffled (excuse the pun) about the law

 

[Mike@Rentech]

Word from me an MOT tester.....

No cat is required legally but your car must meet the emission limits simple as that.

Most cars wont pass the test without a cat anyway unless your really lucky!

And yes I will fit my cat on for when I mot my car, then remove it afterwards.
Thats all it needs to meet the MOT standards, construction and use regulations now thats a different matter!

[Edited by Mike172sport on 06 December 2004 at 6:19pm]

 

[George16v]

go on?

 

[McBunny]

bloody hell how hard does this have to be lol

 

[George16v]

Well just dont want to get done by the police mate

 

[Phil 99]

Quote: Originally posted by bang on 06 December 2004

I hear they will be made illegal in 2005, cant remember where though.

I cant see why though. The business of making de-cats would be rendered absoubtly useless

 

[gunnergibson]

LOL....ill clear this one up. It is only illegal not to have a cat if your emmisions are above the legally specified limits for idle, and fast idle. It is illegal for your exhaust emissions to pass out of the vehicle if there is no silencer on, or if your exhaust emits the following: smoke or vapour, ashes or cinders,grit , sparks, or oily substances.

1.8.95- passenger car first used on or after must comply to relevant limits, and also between 1.8.92-1.8.95 must comply to relevent limits (emisison limits)

a police officer can issue you with a rectification notice, because more often than not a decat will fail your cars emission test.






[Edited by gunnergibson on 07 December 2004 at 1:24am]

 

[Has]

LOL.... just to put a spanner in the works i have a question now. after reading the thread.

Ok say you have a decat. You get stopped and caught, rectification notice applies etc... you go thru the usual process of cat back on and re-MOT.

after this is done, you take it off and decat again.

Wot happens if you get caught again....is the "punishment" more severe or do they not have any record of u beign caught for the same offence previously?

 

[George16v]

mmm good point..

 

[Has]

Quote: Originally posted by George16v on 07 December 2004

mmm good point..

aaaayeeee. just a random question i got after reading the thread really.

never heard an answer for it before, so lets see wot people have ot say

 

[McBunny]

lol it doesnt matter you just get it fixed again its not your fault ya exhaust keeps failing

 

[George16v]

So Has are you gonna get one? and do you think I should?

 

[McBunny]

yes bloody get one stop fanying around lol