I'm not wanting to sound all 'holier than thou', but it really pisses me off when hacking teams/individuals say that they don't condone such actions for use in piracy of games. s**t, really? So you create a universal key fob for cars that can unlock any motor and what, that wouldn't appeal to people who steal cars? You create a random pin-number generator that allows money to be withdrawn from ATMs using legit accounts, but with bogus cards. That wouldn't appeal to the typical thief?
You can't promote your work when the real reason for that work is going to be used for no good in the first place. Smith & Wesson might as well advertise their new armour-piercing .44 Magnum as a perfect way to kill ants from crawling up your garden path. But WhoTF would use it for that?
'Not me guv, honest' BS....
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Sony (and all the other players) have created this whole mess themselves though. If they provided a legitimate way of running your own software on the console, it's unlikely that the people who have broken stuff like this would be interested in doing it, their motivations are not piracy but being able to use/tinker (run commodore 64 games!) with hardware which they own..
Sony (and all the other players) have created this whole mess themselves though. If they provided a legitimate way of running your own software on the console, it's unlikely that the people who have broken stuff like this would be interested in doing it, their motivations are not piracy but being able to use/tinker (run commodore 64 games!) with hardware which they own.
Sony could have embedded multiple keys (with multiple rights) in the device, one for commerical games, one for "home development", they seriously need to take a look at how apple deal with development.
I have zero sympathy for them. The original PS1 had a version called the "net yaroze" that wasn't exactly cheap (around £500 iirc) but came with development tools and allowed you to make your own software for it, even Microsoft have the XNA development programme which allows joe bloggs sitting in his bedroom to create the next angry birds.
Sony are arrogant and this should be a wake-up call.
I fully understand what you're saying, but why should they have to? I for one would love to get a few more BHP and the odd torque increase thrown in for good measure on my 182's ECU. But in no way do I think that Reno should feel compelled to enable me to do that in the first place.
Fair enough, if Sony provided the options initially in the early days of the hardware to tinker and then in recent months have clamped down on it - I can see why that would get peoples' backs up. But going behind the facade that such groups don't promote piracy is just a little too much for me to swallow. I don't believe for one minute that such groups would really be sugary-sweet and all innocent.
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I fully understand what you're saying, but why should they have to? I for one would love to get a few more BHP and the odd torque increase thrown in for good measure on my 182's ECU. But in no way do I think that Reno should feel compelled to enable me to do that in the first place.
Fair enough, if Sony provided the options initially in the early days of the hardware to tinker and then in recent months have clamped down on it - I can see why that would get peoples' backs up. But going behind the facade that such groups don't promote piracy is just a little too much for me to swallow. I don't believe for one minute that such groups would really be sugary-sweet and all innocent.
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I know it's a difficult thing to comprehend when the end result leads to making piracy easier, but honestly the people who cracked this were definitely not motivated by piracy. The group that did the initial work opted not to release the keys and only gave information on how they did it. Fwiw they're not too pleased that geohot released the keys because of how they can be used. Geohot certainly isn't interested in piracy either, but the release of the keys opens up many doors on the platform now.
I'm not suggesting that every device that contains a computer chip should suddenly become open source and tinkerable, that's not realistic, however, Sony were very arrogant in taking away a feature that many people used and did allow them to quite happily tinker in a little sandbox, they removed it in under the guise of "preventing piracy", well thats worked out well now, hasn't it?!
Like I said, Sony dipped a toe into homebrew with the yaroze all those years ago, Microsoft allow you to write games on the 360 through the XNA system. If you let people write software for the platform legally & cheaply then you take away all legitimacy from those who attack the system, as the only people left to do the attacking are the pirates.
Sometimes the best form of securing a door is to leave it slightly ajar.
Happy days... it's almost too easy these days!...in assembler (MS-DOS) without a debugger.
Happy days... it's almost too easy these days!![]()
Yes, get that power supply fixed pronto! Sadly I do very little low-level stuff these days. The only time I delve into assembler is if I notice some weird performance issues and/or when I have suspicions about what the compiler is spitting out. I'd love a working BBC Micro.Hell yeah, I love low level stuff....I guess that's why 95% of what I do is embedded.
The BBC micro is one of the greatest computers of all time - which reminds me, I must fix the power supply on mine because it went up in smoke before christmas. Yanky old capacitors.....
Yes, get that power supply fixed pronto! Sadly I do very little low-level stuff these days. The only time I delve into assembler is if I notice some weird performance issues and/or when I have suspicions about what the compiler is spitting out. I'd love a working BBC Micro.
Yes, get that power supply fixed pronto! Sadly I do very little low-level stuff these days. The only time I delve into assembler is if I notice some weird performance issues and/or when I have suspicions about what the compiler is spitting out. I'd love a working BBC Micro.
Mate... I am (and have been in the past) tempted to buy one. I just don't know where I'd put it when not in use as my cupboards and 'computer closet' are already full of retro gaming consoles, games, etc. But never say never...Worth a punt m8, for the price of a half-a-tank of juice!
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BBC-micro...pt=UK_VintageComputing_RL&hash=item3f2f218145
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