r27 question

[Dan-]

Before anyone kicks off i have searched for the answer i promise, i just want to know if the r27 has more torque low down like the 200's ?

 

[Martin_172]

nope 200 only

 

[Knuckles]

nope. same as the normal 197s

 

[R-Sport.]

No it has slightly less- The updated 200 gets through the early revs quicker & has more torque-

Driving an R27 home tonight & it is deffo slightly slower than the 200-

steve

 

[rbrocky]

Fit a ported TB and all is well and you have the better looking of the two phases!



EDIT: (For a lot less)

 

[Knuckles]

lol, along with a map and exhaust to make it worth wile

 

[rbrocky]

Like this ^^^^

 

[Dan-]

No it has slightly less- The updated 200 gets through the early revs quicker & has more torque-

Driving an R27 home tonight & it is deffo slightly slower than the 200-

steve

Whats it like in comparison with the 172 for torque low down? I can see i am in danger of opening a can of worms here with the whats faster debate. The reason i ask is the 172 feels a little bit sluggish low down in the revs and you dont get many roads where you can cane it through the gears and when i do i have the fact its an 8 year old french car in the back of my mind lol

 

[R-Sport.]

My flamer is faster than the R27- ( just)
All it has a prospeed exhaust, lightweight recaros & all the rear stripped out-

A 172 is easier to drive fast- unlike the R27/197 cup- You need to be in the higher rev band to get feel the torque of the 197-
catch a 197 in the wrong gear- say 2k revs in third & you will be very slow on pick up...

saying that the 197 is brilliant to slaughter around- it always wants to be revved & driven-!

Any info you want on an r27 give me a shout

S

 

[Knuckles]

Yeah, these aren't the quickest things around going up through the gears... But keep them above 3.5k and you're laughing.

Ive noticed that I find myself pausing and wondering of I'm pressing the accelerator (foot is on the floor) when going up through the gears quickly... It's rev rev, sluggish sluggish, oh here we go lol

Even overtaking in 6th is fairly effortless :approve:

 

[Dan-]

My flamer is faster than the R27- ( just)
All it has a prospeed exhaust, lightweight recaros & all the rear stripped out-

A 172 is easier to drive fast- unlike the R27/197 cup- You need to be in the higher rev band to get feel the torque of the 197-
catch a 197 in the wrong gear- say 2k revs in third & you will be very slow on pick up...

saying that the 197 is brilliant to slaughter around- it always wants to be revved & driven-!

Any info you want on an r27 give me a shout

S

Cheers mate, how are the 200's in comparison?

Yeah, these aren't the quickest things around going up through the gears... But keep them above 3.5k and you're laughing.

Ive noticed that I find myself pausing and wondering of I'm pressing the accelerator (foot is on the floor) when going up through the gears quickly... It's rev rev, sluggish sluggish, oh here we go lol

Even overtaking in 6th is fairly effortless :approve:

Do they feel a lot more solid than 1*2?

 

[Knuckles]

Wouldn't know sorry, I went from a ph2 1.4 to an r27... They're a lot more solid than the 1.4 if that helps

Far less rattles lol

 

[Knuckles]

If we're at a meet together I'll take you out so you can get a feel of it if you like?

 

[Dan-]

yeah cheers mate that would be good, I'm really happy with my 172 tbf But I'm always looking at whats next lol

 

[Knuckles]

Lol. Have you considered r26's? I can imagine that'd be more of a step up/upgrade from a 172 than one of these. The recaros and chassis are amazing in these though

 

[Dan-]

I get the feeling these are really unreliable quite a jump on the insurance too

 

[Knuckles]

Aah fair dos, are there any local to you you could test in the meantime? If not I'm sure there'll be a meet soon enough

 

[Christopher]

Personally, I didn't get on with the 197/R27, although I do love the look of the R27's.

The 200 drives better in every single way, and in the right spec looks superb.

That said, 197's are getting very cheap now!

 

[Sir_Dave]

A 172 is easier to drive fast- unlike the R27/197 cup- You need to be in the higher rev band to get feel the torque of the 197- catch a 197 in the wrong gear- say 2k revs in third & you will be very slow on pick up...

saying that the 197 is brilliant to slaughter around- it always wants to be revved & driven-!

I'd agree with all of that, the 197 is great once you're above 5k, but below that, it can feel VERY flat compared to the 1*2.

Once you're above that 5k however, its a joy to keep it there, with the 'box having almost perfectly spaced ratios to keep it on the boil.

Unfortunately, the mpg is worse than an M3 lol.